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bedlamVR
01-05-2006, 08:59 AM
Personally I don't think Vinny has done that bad a job on talent evaluation and preparing in information for the coaches to digest . In the one year he was fired and Marty took over we all remember the excellent personel decisions that were made then, who can forget the perenial pro bowler Kevin Locket or indead the waste of space players he ditched like the last Dlineman to get over 10 sacks in a year (Marco Coleman), or oneof the best pass catching FBs in the game (Larry Centers) but he did better in the draft though picking up Rod Gardner, Fred Smoot, Sage Rosenfals, Mario Monds and Danerian Macants, none of which are with the team and I think only Sage is actually on an active roster .

Just for comparison though we are often told how much our drafts suck and how bad we are (in general) by our own fans here is something taken from a Philly paper

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/13537336.htm
Struggles with finding players in the draft
Other than McNabb, the Eagles have little to show for the 1999, 2000 and 2001 drafts. And 2003 isn't looking great, either.Corey Simon (first round, 2000) is gone. So are, among others, Freddie Mitchell (first round, 2001), Barry Gardner (second round, '99), John Welbourn (fourth round, '99), Bobbie Williams (second round, 2000), Quinton Caver (second round, 2001), and Derrick Burgess (third round, 2001).
In fact, from those 1999-2001 drafts, the Eagles currently have McNabb, injured wideout Todd Pinkston (second round, 2000) and injured running back Correll Buckhalter (fourth round, 2001). In a league where success flows from good drafting, the picks from those years should be forming the team's foundation right now, its nexus of late-20s players in their primes. And all that remains from the 2003 draft are injured defensive end Jerome McDougle (first round), tight end L.J. Smith (second round) and wideout Billy McMullen (third round).

MTK
01-05-2006, 09:02 AM
Personally I don't think Vinny has done that bad a job on talent evaluation and preparing in information for the coaches to digest . In the one year he was fired and Marty took over we all remember the excellent personel decisions that were made then, who can forget the perenial pro bowler Kevin Locket or indead the waste of space players he ditched like the last Dlineman to get over 10 sacks in a year (Marco Coleman), or oneof the best pass catching FBs in the game (Larry Centers) but he did better in the draft though picking up Rod Gardner, Fred Smoot, Sage Rosenfals, Mario Monds and Danerian Macants, none of which are with the team and I think only Sage is actually on an active roster.

I think you're giving way too much credit to Vinny for any of our "misses" over the last few years.

Yes he's been part of the process but when Marty took over he canned Vinny and Marty alone was responsible for personnel. So if you don't like that year's crop of talent there's only Marty to blame.

bedlamVR
01-05-2006, 04:39 PM
That was kind of the point I was making that Vinny gets way too much blame but actually he isn't doing to baad of a job . Hacket (sp?) at the Eagles is hailed as a guru but I am betting the hitting averages of the two personel men are not totally disimilar .

jgalecpa
01-05-2006, 05:50 PM
Loosen up, Sandy Baby!

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