The Skins' biggest area of need?

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Riggo44
01-17-2006, 03:02 PM
WR. We need a bigger guy that can help in the redzone and on 3rd downs. Someone built kinda like Rod Gardner but that can catch.

dmek25
01-17-2006, 03:10 PM
the reason seattle beat us because hassleback got to stand in the pocket all day and make plays.we need a flat out pass rusher.i dont care if its a linebacker or an end.we need someone who can get to the qb without the skins blitzing.patten is a proven #2 receiver

FRPLG
01-17-2006, 03:38 PM
I went WR but I also think SC is right about needing oline depth. I don't necessarily think Dockery needs replacing when a more pressing need would be depth in general. At least one guy who can play tackle, another who can play guard, one who can play both and a center. And if any of them look as clueless as Raymer then someone needs to get shot.

Redskins_P
01-17-2006, 03:52 PM
And if any of them look as clueless as Raymer then someone needs to get shot.


I'm surprised no one started any threads about that.

Raymer was horrible!

#56fanatic
01-17-2006, 04:05 PM
Let me be clear here. I am not saying that adding help at WR is unimportant. That is VERY important. Taylor Jacobs is NOT ever going to be a top shelf WR in the NFL. I kinda felt that way at the beginning of last year but held out hope he could become an important contributor to thi team. He didn't; I'm now convinced he can't. James Thrash is a #3 WR and special teams player; that's it. Patten and Moss are solid but they are small and the Skins will need to have some depth there.

OK, does everyone understand that I agree that WR needs upgrading.

Now look at the OL. Sorry but Professor Dockery is only the starting guard on this team because the back-ups were 43-year-old Ray Brown and Cory Raymer. Both back-ups are way below par; imagine if Thomas had been injured in Week 4 and the Skins tried to go 3 months with Brown/Raymer as their tandem at right guard. Excuse me, but there would have been zero playoff games for the Skins. Dockery starts ahead of those two but that ain't sayin' much. He's been here long enough that he should be "really good" at least half the time out there. I'd say he's not tripping over his Johnson half the time out there but that's not quite the same as being "really good"...

So, even if you are 100% convinced that the Skins back-up at OT is the greatest thing since the mattress - I don't know because I didn't see much of any of them this year - that means the Skins need to replace 3 offensive linemen in the off-season. That's why I think this is their biggest need.

There is some validity to your statement, however buges and co felt dockery played awefully well this year, as did I. This is only his 3rd season, 1st playing w/ a healthy o-line. Olines take a few years to really start playing as a unit. I do think he will be a probowler for years to come. The backup at tackles are an unknown. Molinaro has impressed the staff enough to be on the roster, and actually filled in quite well when samuels was injured last season for a game or so. I feel the WR spot is in need of an upgrade, but as important over everything else I am just not sold. Patten historically has been a very productive 800 yard receiver. New offense, new staff, alot of thing contribute to a decline in numbers. I believe he will be a better receiver next year and provide some catches maybe up to 60 or 70. But, I dont think we want him taken a number of balls away from Cooley either. He is going to be a hell of a weapon once he get the over all knowledge of the schemes and NFL in general. I think we could get a decent WR in 3rd and maybe a gibbs guy in the 4th. DE is what I would draft, unless the Ramsey - Abraham thing works out. I do think we need upgrading in the secondary. Clark is a good run stopper, but his coverage skills need something to desire. a good coverage safety to compliment Taylor and the blitzing schemes of Williams could make them as dominant a unit in recent memory. Plus springs is old, as is walt harris and bowen. Jimoh is a big ? mark. How many of us felt comfortable with Jimoh going in the philly game and some dude off the practice squad? I would guess not many. I say if the FS from Notre Dame is there, we take him. He looks like a hell of an athlete and smart kid obviously.

MTK
01-17-2006, 04:07 PM
I like our starting 5 up front including Dockery.

Depth is an issue... Raymer was a mess against Seattle.

FRPLG
01-17-2006, 04:12 PM
I like our starting 5 up front including Dockery.

Depth is an issue... Raymer was a mess against Seattle.
Yeah I'd love to have 5 guys competing for pro bowl starting slots but I think for money's sake it is best to settle for better than average at one or two spots. I don't concur with SC that the only reason Dockery was starting was because our depth was so bad that there was anyone decent enough to challenge him. He is a starter on just about any team outside of teams with pro bowlers at both guard spots.

Big C
01-17-2006, 04:38 PM
Here's my list.......

1. No. 2 WR
2. Depth on the o-line
3. DE
4. Depth in the secondary (SS, CB)
5. Punter/Kicker

thats pretty much how i see it as well. depth in the secondary, especially depth at cornerback is a must. that may be above the need for a DE

That Guy
01-17-2006, 04:57 PM
I tend to agree
WR #2
CB #3
OL (2 quality G/T)
DL (DE #2, DT #3)
LB
K/P/KR/PR

i think we're also going to need at least one good (not great) LB too... holdman needs to move on and clemons is alright, but if lavar is gone (or even if he isn't) we have no legitimate depth there.

LongTimeSkinsFan
01-17-2006, 04:58 PM
I voted for WR of the choices listed, but I'm in agreement with SC on the O-line. I think we could stand to upgrade at LG and we need to really improve our depth and quality of depth in case of injuries.

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