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The Moss vs. Coles isn't even worth discussing with these bone-headed, ultra-homer Jets fans.
If they prefer Coles and his stellar 11.6 yards per catch more power to them.
Exactly Matty -- I need to see that this wasn't a one year thing. Regardless of where he was in yards: When I toss out names like Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Tory Holt, Anquan Boldin, etc, etc. Take the personallity that you may like or dislike away from each of these and look at a skill level. Would you keep Moss over any of them? I wouldn't.
If I see Moss replicate a year ANYTHING even remotely close (top 10 receiving, 6-7+ TD, being a staple in our offense for 16 games) I'll feel more confident.
Well if we're talking about who's a better for this offense I'd have to take Moss. He's one of the best screen WRs in the league, and since that's a staple in this passing game you could mention him ahead of guys like Owens, Harrison, etc.
Moss didn't have a worthy compliment across from him either. Outside of TO all the guys you listed have pretty solid #2's and even #3's playing along with them.
jdlea 01-19-2006, 11:01 AM Exactly Matty -- I need to see that this wasn't a one year thing. Regardless of where he was in yards: When I toss out names like Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Tory Holt, Anquan Boldin, etc, etc. Take the personallity that you may like or dislike away from each of these and look at a skill level. Would you keep Moss over any of them? I wouldn't.
If I see Moss replicate a year ANYTHING even remotely close (top 10 receiving, 6-7+ TD, being a staple in our offense for 16 games) I'll feel more confident.
I follow your logic, but I have to say that I would take Moss over Boldin. I just don't see enough from him to think that he's that much better. He had a very good year in spite of his injuries and that play against San Fran was crazy, but Fitzgerald ended up in the Pro Bowl from that team, so it wasn't a one man show. Like I said, I see what you're saying, but I have faith that Santana can have a similar season and I would take him over Boldin, but if we're only judging talent, he might be the only one on that list. I can see where you're coming from, I don't know that I necessarily agree, but I do see where you're coming from.
diehardskin2982 01-19-2006, 11:03 AM he'll have an even better year if we end up snatching al saunders!
dmek25 01-19-2006, 11:17 AM i think those fans are related to eagle fans.payton manning didnt do anything but get the ball to the receivers,is this what is meant by moss didnt make plays,he just ran by his man?if those fans are so happy with coles,why the thread?ask any knowledgeable fan who they would want on their team and every one of them takes moss.the funny thing is coles was suppose to be the burner that moss is,coles would be a good possesion receiver for the skins
Yes . . . Let's see a worthy #2 drawing some attention away from Moss. If he could post this year's stats being our ONLY WR threat, then he should be more effective if Patten comes back strong, or we find another top WR.
Another thing Moss does well is position himself perfectly on long passes. Speed is a big factor, but judgment about how to get to where the ball is going should not be taken for granted.
And Moss has turned into a solid possession receiver, whatever the Jetset may think.
12thMan 01-19-2006, 11:25 AM Exactly Matty -- I need to see that this wasn't a one year thing. Regardless of where he was in yards: When I toss out names like Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Tory Holt, Anquan Boldin, etc, etc. Take the personallity that you may like or dislike away from each of these and look at a skill level. Would you keep Moss over any of them? I wouldn't.
If I see Moss replicate a year ANYTHING even remotely close (top 10 receiving, 6-7+ TD, being a staple in our offense for 16 games) I'll feel more confident.
I think Santana is probably the third best in the NFL right now. Only Steve Smith and Chad are better, in my opinion. I know that sounds like homerism, but.....
And if you look at Santana's avg. per catch with the Jets, it was damn good there. He was oft injured with hammy problems and think that's why we see such a big jump in his numbers this year.
"The only thing I would add is that I am sick of people talking about how he has made such big plays, when every single one of them involved him simply beating his man. He never "makes" a play. Big plays happen to him. He catches balls downfield, and then finishes off with a TD because there is no one in front of him."
That may be one of the dumbest posts ever on a message board. He doesn't make a play, he just beats his man? Big plays happen to him?
That is hilarious, you would swear that was posted by a Skins fan being sarcastic. :laughing2
jdlea 01-19-2006, 11:38 AM "The only thing I would add is that I am sick of people talking about how he has made such big plays, when every single one of them involved him simply beating his man. He never "makes" a play. Big plays happen to him. He catches balls downfield, and then finishes off with a TD because there is no one in front of him."
That may be one of the dumbest posts ever on a message board. He doesn't make a play, he just beats his man? Big plays happen to him?
Seriously, so Steve Smith must suck cause he left Bears corners laying in the dirt since they couldn't keep up with him. That's just stupid. It doesn't even make sense!
Dana87 01-19-2006, 11:41 AM Ok maybe it's time to add a football IQ test to the login screen. " Moss doens't make big plays they happen to him" Wow :party-smi
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