BrudLee
02-27-2006, 12:59 PM
We "were" competing. By the end of the year our offense became predictable and defenses were able to shut it down by focusing on moss and cooley. In order to take the team to the next level we must add a component that can spread the field and create opportunities for moss, cooley and portis. I don't think Randle-El is the answer only because we are going to have to overpay for a marginal #2 guy. I really liked Chad Jackson at the combine yesterday, a lot.
By the end of the year, we won our last five regular season games, and our first playoff game. The teams that knew us best (from our own division) got beat like narcs at a meth lab. Our #2 WR, while not a statistic juggernaut, was on IR.
I'd love to see another viable threat on offense. I'm just not convinced that that player needs to be acquired in big name free agency or with a splashy draft pick.
Sean Taylor is God
02-27-2006, 01:00 PM
What should our WR Depth Chart look like?
1) Moss
2) Free-Agent?
3) Patten ?
4) Rookie?
5) Jacobs?
everyone says we should cut jacobs but the #'s say we will only save 115K, which is less than it would cost to find a replacement. Plus at least he already knows the system and can play gunner on special teams.
Sean Taylor is God
02-27-2006, 01:06 PM
We won the games but you can not look me in the eye and say that our offense played well or was inspiring. I think it is a concensus that our defense won us those games and got us to the playoffs i.e. Greg Williams getting an enormous extension. We will not survive next season if our offense does not continue to evolve. Perhaps Al Saunders will be able tu utilize our current talent better than Gibbs.
That Guy
02-27-2006, 01:23 PM
if we got R-el, he'd be the #3, he was actually more productive there. patten isn't a stud #2, but he kept moss open. if a rookie comes in, they're not going to be the #2, at least not this year (in all likelyhood).
I'd like to get somebody, but i don't see anyone in FA or the draft that's absolutely great. KR and JJ are probably resigning with their teams. Curtis would be a good pickup, but because he'd require a #3 draft pick, is probably also signing back with his team. bryant will probably cost too much for a suddenly conervative redskins team because he believes he's a #1, and he's got talent, but not enough talent and character to get his team (who are WAY under cap) to even attempt to make an offer before free agency opens. R-el's price is going to be driven up well past his production because he's the best of a weak year for WRs (followed by a weak draft).
jackson was fast, but i wasn't impressed with his drills... I think i was most impressedd with ingel martin (QB, transferred so he wouldn't be behind rex grossman).
Moss is probably the best fit for us (though i doubt he'll be there), he may cap out as a #2 (his speed and ball reaction are as good as santana's), but he can produce immediately due to his speed. In the mid rounds i think hass and orr are probably the best and DQ is worth a look if he's not drafted (blackmon as #3CB/#3WR may also be a good deal in the 3rd round). Greg Lee or Todd Watkins may be decent picks there too (but i don't know much about them).
I would avoid hagan (no hands, at all) and stovall (SLOW) at all costs. if you really need big for big's sake, nance is a (slightly) better option.
That Guy
02-27-2006, 01:25 PM
We won the games but you can not look me in the eye and say that our offense played well or was inspiring. I think it is a concensus that our defense won us those games and got us to the playoffs i.e. Greg Williams getting an enormous extension. We will not survive next season if our offense does not continue to evolve. Perhaps Al Saunders will be able tu utilize our current talent better than Gibbs.
we went from 29th to 14th... if patten was healthy we would have been even higher (since moss took an immediate 30yard/game hit once he went out). Depth was the real killer.
Sean Taylor is God
02-27-2006, 01:30 PM
i agree about jackson's drills but he is young and has superior physical abilities. i also agree about hagan and stovall, was not impressed at all yesterday. I think you are giving Patten too much credit but he did get injured so it is possible his production will increase.
That Guy
02-27-2006, 01:33 PM
i agree about jackson's drills but he is young and has superior physical abilities. i also agree about hagan and stovall, was not impressed at all yesterday. I think you are giving Patten too much credit but he did get injured so it is possible his production will increase.
not really, i ran the numbers... he's getting some side benefit in them (brunell got worse down the stretch beyond missing his #2).
games with patten averaged 80 more passing yards than games without him (he has 30/game, moss had 30more/game and RBs/other WRs made up most of the rest). Once Patten went down other WRs (not patten/moss) averaged 0.5catches a game vs 3/game beforehand.
Sean Taylor is God
02-27-2006, 01:37 PM
I wasn't implying Patten is bad. I think he is our second best WR. However, I also think we would be greatly served in getting a guy who is more of a quality stand-alone receiver, rather than a good decoy. Moulds is good but probably too costly.
That Guy
02-27-2006, 02:05 PM
I wasn't implying Patten is bad. I think he is our second best WR. However, I also think we would be greatly served in getting a guy who is more of a quality stand-alone receiver, rather than a good decoy. Moulds is good but probably too costly.
no debate there. I just don't see any great stand alones this year that won't be overpriced :/ Bryant may actually be the best available talent/age wise, but I've definately still got questions about him.
moulds said he was willing to take a paycut, i think they're both going to try hard to keep him on the bills roster.
TheMalcolmConnection
02-27-2006, 02:07 PM
Patten not even just a decoy when someone throws him the ball! *cough* Brunell *cough*