Some basic answers about the CBA from ESPN

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That Guy
03-02-2006, 04:13 PM
I don't really understand what happens if a team does stay over the cap. I guess they would be forced to forfeit games, that would make sense. What if they let em play over the cap, though? I have no idea what's going on...

its never happened... its like the movie where the russian sub officers open the secret black box for instructionss in case of a core meltdown on there ship... only to find a piece of paper saying that the manual has yet to be written.

jdlea
03-02-2006, 04:14 PM
Yeah, Arrington costs more to cut than keep. It actually costs us 600k more to cut him. We really need people to restructure, but it's getting late in the day, so we might see what happens if a team stays over the cap.

There is a line in that article on ESPN that says that other teams have studied our cap and don't think it's mathematically possible to get under the cap. I guess if we get a bunch of restructuring done we'll be okay, but like I said, it's getting late.

That Guy
03-02-2006, 04:15 PM
Here was the most amazing quote in that article:



The big question is, can they renegotiate enough deals to get in compliance. The real doomsday scenario is if they can't. With only six hours left, we'll see. Because of the special 2006 rules, it is not that easy to do -- even with willing players. The best scenario possible is if they find a way to renegotiate enough deals to actually put them under the cap for 2K6 far enough that they will be able to be players in the FA market.

there's no way. if we cut everybody but the 13 that are cheaper to keep, we'd have 34 rookies and a 47 man team. no way we can even make enough back to pay draft picks and keep half the current players, much less go out and sign people.

dmek25
03-02-2006, 04:15 PM
crt makes it sound pretty simple.maybe cerrato gets fired and crt takes over the cap issues for the skins

That Guy
03-02-2006, 04:17 PM
Cut the players who are due big money and who are not a vital cog in the wheel.



the problem is we fall short and have 6-7mill left to cut with a list of players to choose from like:
jansen 800k
samuels 300k
washington 500k

etc. hence the importance of restructuring a LOT of money.

That Guy
03-02-2006, 04:19 PM
I just love Daniel Snyder. He does everything he can to help this team win. I don't understand how anyone can not like this man... :laughing2 If crippling the cap, and possibly the draft helps Washington win, they'll be Superbowl champions next season.

in his defense, if we make the playoffs in 2006, then the cba totally cripples your ability to sign FAs (the restrictions on playoff teams in FA are super harsh). so by sucking, we'll be able to sign every star college athlete and any available free agents pretty readily.

BigSKINBauer
03-02-2006, 04:19 PM
one of the analysts on ESPN said it has happened to the 49ers before and they lost draft picks and memebers of the organization were fined. He said it has happened to the steelers but it was not even close to what happened with the 9ers???

RiggoRules
03-02-2006, 04:22 PM
there's no way. if we cut everybody but the 13 that are cheaper to keep, we'd have 34 rookies and a 47 man team. no way we can even make enough back to pay draft picks and keep half the current players, much less go out and sign people.

I think you completely missed my point....

What I was trying to say is that cutting players will leave us over the cap (thought I was pretty clear). The only shot we have is renegotiating deals.

The question with redoing the deals is if it is even possible under the current year rules to create enough space to be under, and if so, will enough players "step up".

If the Ashburn brain trust HAS a method for doing this and enough players willing to deal, then the question becomes, is it possible to get below the cap enough to raid the about to be depressed FA market.

BTW, I think the key to pulling this off actually means making a commitment to Lavar.

That Guy
03-02-2006, 04:37 PM
I think you completely missed my point....

What I was trying to say is that cutting players will leave us over the cap (thought I was pretty clear). The only shot we have is renegotiating deals.

The question with redoing the deals is if it is even possible under the current year rules to create enough space to be under, and if so, will enough players "step up".

If the Ashburn brain trust HAS a method for doing this and enough players willing to deal, then the question becomes, is it possible to get below the cap enough to raid the about to be depressed FA market.

BTW, I think the key to pulling this off actually means making a commitment to Lavar.

if we restructure no deals at all (pretend brunell didn't redo his either), you can get under. You ditch all but the 13 that'd cost more than rookie min to replace and you end up with a 47 man roster with 34 1st year players and you're under cap without touching any existing contracts.

you said this though
The best scenario possible is if they find a way to renegotiate enough deals to actually put them under the cap for 2K6 far enough that they will be able to be players in the FA market.

and i was saying there's no way we'll ever make enough off the restructures to even keep our current team, much less add to it. I don't see how i misconstrued that though.

RiggoRules
03-02-2006, 05:03 PM
Guy, it isn't a matter of either or, it is a matter of a combination of both.

Assume that ESPN is correct that the Skins are currently $14 mil over at this moment (granted, assuming ESPN accuracy on anything is nearly as dangerous as going to a game in Philly). Parting ways with Hall, Tupa, Ramsey, Noble, Bowen, Brown, Farris and Frost gets that number down to about $3-5 mil.

Redoing deals with Griffin, Portis, Rabach, Samuels, Springs and Washington puts us about $10-12 mil under. Making a commitment to Lavar would allow for an even better 2K6 number.

In a depressed market, $10-15 mill could go a long way.

I'm not saying this is what is going to happen, just what is possible. There is a danger that Ashburn is going to be ground zero in salary cap Armageddon. But there is also a possibility that they may be over there manufacturing massive amounts of lemonaid.

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