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12thMan 07-31-2006, 01:50 PM What exactly about Jeffries game impresses you the most? His career average of 6.1 points per game or the 4.8 rebounds per game? Maybe his 1.6 assists per game or his .4 blocks per game. I guess it's his uncanny ability to spaz whenever he has the ball around the basket?
Now in Blatche I at least see someone who averaged over 20ppg over the two summer leagues this year. He is not even 21 yet and he can play against men. Now it's only summer league but I am willing to bet Blatche will be at least three if not four times the player Jeffries is. Although that isn't saying much. The guy is not even 21 and he is taller and in my opinion more of a physical presence. With Blatche I think we will see some good things this year.
I would love for Blatche to step up and pull his own, and then some!
Be my guest. I just don't like how we allow "budding" players bounce out of DC after two or three years and then go elsewhere and blow up.
No, Jeffries isn't an All-Star by any stretch of the imagination. It's possible that we can plug someone else in there and still get productivity.
But I don't think the stats tell the whole story either. First of all, you have the big three that will get the lions share of scoring for the Wizards. Which pretty much makes him a role player in that department. Defensively, Jeffries gave us a lot of different looks. He wasn't confined to playing in the post, where many block shots do take place. He added versatility.
My main point is that it seems like another year of here we go again.
Redskins_P 07-31-2006, 01:51 PM The only thing Jeffries brings to the table is his size and defense. He's not the greatest rebounder, and a terrible shooter. Like TAFKAS once told me....he's a master of nothing (I think you said it this way). He can play defense, create mismatches, and rebound (sometimes), but no way is he worth a 6 year contract. Until I see him hit 2 jumpers in a row, or until I see him NOT miss a layup......he's worthless. Don't get me wrong, he was awesome at Indiana, but none of that translated to his pro game.
And like TAF said, we've got Songaila and Blatche. For those of you who haven't seen Blatche or don't believe he can fill Jeffries shoes....check the summer league box scores and you'll see who was our leading scorer. Blatche brings so much more the table.....young, hungry, and full of talent. He can shoot, pass, and rebound just as good, if not, better than Jeffries. He can definitely shoot better. Blatche's only weakness is his defense, but thats why we signed Songaila. He's a good defender and spot up shooter.
Goodbye Jeffries.......
wilsowilso 07-31-2006, 01:57 PM Jeffries isn't a scorer, but on the Bullets, he didn't have to be. He's a great team player, a hard worker, good defender, good inside player. With Arenas, Jamison, Butler...he didn't need to be a scorer. The loss won't hurt the team too much but I would've preferred that he stayed. Free agency will replace him though.
Good free agent replacements with similar games to Jeffries and would come cheap could be Adrian Griffin (DAL), DeShawn Stevenson (ORL), Trevor Ariza (ORL), Laron Profit (LAL), Calbert Cheaney (GS), Rasual Butler (CHA), Keith Bogans (HOU).
Ok with that list of similar players(some have pretty different games than Jeffries) I'm not sure I even need to argue my point anymore. Would anyone possibly give 33 million dollars to any of those players. He is an average player and he is a tweener so he basically doesn't fit anywhere. I hope they pass. In fact they can't afford not to IMO.
12thMan 07-31-2006, 02:01 PM The only thing Jeffries brings to the table is his size and defense. He's not the greatest rebounder, and a terrible shooter. Like TAFKAS once told me....he's a master of nothing (I think you said it this way). He can play defense, create mismatches, and rebound (sometimes), but no way is he worth a 6 year contract. Until I see him hit 2 jumpers in a row, or until I see him NOT miss a layup......he's worthless. Don't get me wrong, he was awesome at Indiana, but none of that translated to his pro game.
And like TAF said, we've got Songaila and Blatche. For those of you who haven't seen Blatche or don't believe he can fill Jeffries shoes....check the summer league box scores and you'll see who was our leading scorer. Blatche brings so much more the table.....young, hungry, and full of talent. He can shoot, pass, and rebound just as good, if not, better than Jeffries. He can definitely shoot better. Blatche's only weakness is his defense, but thats why we signed Songaila. He's a good defender and spot up shooter.
Goodbye Jeffries.......
Like I said, if Blatche can make it happen - good!
wilsowilso 07-31-2006, 02:02 PM I guess being a Wizard fan is what we are burdened with as a balance for having the best football team in the world. It's frustrating to say the least. Go Skins!
12thMan 07-31-2006, 02:06 PM I guess being a Wizard fan is what we are burdened with as a balance for having the best football team in the world. It's frustrating to say the least. Go Skins!
ditto on that.
SmootSmack 07-31-2006, 02:15 PM The only thing Jeffries brings to the table is his size and defense. He's not the greatest rebounder, and a terrible shooter. Like TAFKAS once told me....he's a master of nothing (I think you said it this way). He can play defense, create mismatches, and rebound (sometimes), but no way is he worth a 6 year contract. Until I see him hit 2 jumpers in a row, or until I see him NOT miss a layup......he's worthless. Don't get me wrong, he was awesome at Indiana, but none of that translated to his pro game.
And like TAF said, we've got Songaila and Blatche. For those of you who haven't seen Blatche or don't believe he can fill Jeffries shoes....check the summer league box scores and you'll see who was our leading scorer. Blatche brings so much more the table.....young, hungry, and full of talent. He can shoot, pass, and rebound just as good, if not, better than Jeffries. He can definitely shoot better. Blatche's only weakness is his defense, but thats why we signed Songaila. He's a good defender and spot up shooter.
Goodbye Jeffries.......
Jarred Jeffries-jack of all trades, master of none. On the other hand, I've heard from some people who have watched Blatche in person all summer that he is going to be simply awesome once he gets minutes.
mooby 07-31-2006, 02:54 PM I just want to say if Arenas leaves we're pretty much back at base 1. Why don't the Wizards want to make themselves into contenders? It's like they're happy just making the playoffs.
dmek25 07-31-2006, 03:14 PM i agree with tafkas, players like jefferies are a dime a dozen. the move would have been ben wallace, for rebounding and interior defense. haywood is too foul prone and inconsistant. didnt wallace play for the wizards at one time?
SmootSmack 07-31-2006, 03:15 PM If I may channel Allen Iverson for a minute....We talkin' bout Jarred Jeffries. Jeffries. Jarred. Jarred Jeffries. Not Caron, not Arenas. Jarred Jeffries. What are we talking about people? Jarred Jeffries. Not Caron. Not Caron. Jeffries. C'mon now. We talkin' bout Jarred Jeffries. Not Arenas. Jeffries.
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