Excellent perspective on Pats game

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JWsleep
08-28-2006, 12:21 AM
I liked the piece--though it doesn't excuse the total lack of fire by players out there. Still, I'm happy to believe his analysis for now. We'll know on the 11th.

44_Riggins_44
08-28-2006, 12:25 AM
i agree, great post by this guy. but i also agree he sugar coats the defense. but overall the post makes a ton of sense, A+

illdefined
08-28-2006, 12:35 AM
anyone here watch that close and confirm his play selection observations? it'd be great if it were all true.

SmootSmack
08-28-2006, 12:43 AM
anyone here watch that close and confirm his play selection observations? it'd be great if it were all true.

Not positive. But I do know that after the game yesterday, Brunell said there were several plays they wanted to practice and execute properly and they felt they got those plays down. As if to say, they weren't thinking of the scoreboard or the game situation necessarily they were just intent on executing certain plays repeatedly until they got them down.

offiss
08-28-2006, 02:33 AM
There are concerns coming out of this game, and the biggest IMO is our kicking game, why they continue to stick with Frost is beyond me, and I would have cut bait with Hall as well, no sense in keeping an average field goal kicker who can't kick off nor stay healthy, we are just asking for problems with this guy.

Jansen was beat to the outside a couple of times I know that wasen't by design.

Until we line up our starters and throw the kitchen sink at a team we are not going to know for sure what they can do, but if anyone thinks the Pats are going to put up 41 points on a G.Williams defense in the regular season when healthy thier crazy, I do hope Rocky is a quick learner because he is far and away better than Holdman.

I do believe the most mysterious question mark we have is the O-line? Are they overated? Have our offensive woes been because of a very weak and highly overated O-line, or an inferior game plan, that question will finally be answered in week 1.

vaoutlaws2006
08-28-2006, 08:23 AM
Well after reading that article I have a renewed since of optimism. But come on guys would the coaching staffing actually do that? I dont know it sure sounds good but i am still a little worried knowing sept 11 is right around the corner.

GoSkins!
08-28-2006, 08:40 AM
anyone here watch that close and confirm his play selection observations? it'd be great if it were all true.

Yeah. After reading the post I went back and watched the tape. We ran almost every play on offense out of three formations. Every run play was run with the 5 down linemen and a TE, usually with a 2 back set left and right of the QB. The pass plays were three WRs grouped on one side or the other, no motion, and they made sure that no one, TE's or RB's, helped the o-line on blocking (except an occasional chip by the RB). The defense never disguised anything. They showed thier blitz, let Brady adjust, and then came anyway. They wanted to isolate a defender man on man against the TE but got outplayed. Gibbs confirmed this in his press conference.

No excuse for special teams play. That was awful.

cpayne5
08-28-2006, 08:45 AM
Yeah. After reading the post I went back and watched the tape. We ran almost every play on offense out of three formations. Every run play was run with the 5 down linemen and a TE, usually with a 2 back set left and right of the QB. The pass plays were three WRs grouped on one side or the other, no motion, and they made sure that no one, TE's or RB's, helped the o-line on blocking (except an occasional chip by the RB). The defense never disguised anything. They showed thier blitz, let Brady adjust, and then came anyway. They wanted to isolate a defender man on man against the TE but got outplayed. Gibbs confirmed this in his press conference.

No excuse for special teams play. That was awful.
Thanks for confirming that, GoSkins.

:goodjob:

MTK
08-28-2006, 09:03 AM
Well after reading that article I have a renewed since of optimism. But come on guys would the coaching staffing actually do that? I dont know it sure sounds good but i am still a little worried knowing sept 11 is right around the corner.

Of course they would, they've done similar things in the past.

In 2004 Gregg Williams wanted Sean Taylor to get a taste of getting burned in a preseason game against the Rams, so he left him with no help and go figure he got burned. Williams basically laughed at the media after the game saying they didn't know what the hell was going on when they asked why the secondary was so shaky.

Think of these preseason games as an extension of practice. The coaches are setting up certain scenarios, letting mismatches get created against them, all to analyze the strengths and weaknesses of individual players.

They're coming at these games from an entirely different perspective than we can probably even totally understand. We look at the score, stats, and if player A got beat by player B. I can guarantee they're looking at things ALOT differently than we are.

Wasn't Gibbs' postgame reactions a little odd after the Patriots game?? He didn't look frazzled or frustrated as he usually does after a loss, especially a complete ass whoppin' like that.

What better time is there to give the team a taste of humility than when the games don't count? What better time to strike a fire in this team's belly than in the preseason? What better frame of reference for the team to have headed into a nationally televised season opener than this horrible preseason?? You just know the coaches are using this to their advantage, so when the team comes out of that tunnel on 9/11 they're going to be chomping at the bit to show the world what they're really made of.

RedskinPete
08-28-2006, 09:10 AM
I have to say when I saw the score 41-0 my first thought was wow we really sicken. But now untill 9/11 when all what you didin the perseason mean nothing good or bad we will see the real deal! Be that good or bad. The team has not been game planing each team and there is a lot to that but not 41-0 beatting. So a lot of work in 2 weeks!

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