Reality check on Campbell

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marius
11-01-2006, 09:33 AM
There's been a lot of talk about starting Campbell versus Dallas. As we know, no way is this going to happen. At best he might get a few snaps if the game is lost. Brunell is the starter until the season is over (which could be a couple of games from now) and there is no way that Gibbs will start Campbell until that point.

When things go wrong it is natural for us fans to scream for change but is Campbell more likely to win than Brunell against Dallas? If we are being reasonable we would have to say that in all probability the answer is no at this point. Throwing Campbell in now is basically conceding that the season is over and we are looking to '07 already. While we still have a slim chance of challenging for the playoffs playing Brunell is surely the best option that we have at this point.

If Brunell stinks up the joint against the Cowgirls then scream for his head but until he does the fans have to get behind him. He turned it around last season and could do it again. Let's look to next year when this year is over - at this point it isn't.

skinnyfan
11-01-2006, 09:41 AM
Why can't we look at adding Campbell as having a positive effect?? May add a spark to the passing game or confidence to a team that has none?? I know its a long stretch to think that would happen, but I'm sure the coaches would make the change in order to add some life to the team. Not concede the season. If they put Campbell in and say well, there goes the season, what message does that send to him?? Campbell not playing tells me he is not ready to play, because if Brunell is our best QB option then the season is already lost.

SouperMeister
11-01-2006, 09:46 AM
I'll concede that Brunell gives the team a better chance of winning in the short term, and we know where Gibbs stands on that. Of greater interest - will Jason Campbell be promoted to #2 for the Dallas game? He's taken most of the 1st team snaps with Brunell nursing sore ribs. This will probably be the week, so Campbell will now be one big hit away from inheriting the job. And who knows, perhaps given the opportunity, he would energize the offense as Jay Schroeder did when he replaced Theismann. Even if he doesn't take a snap in year two, Campbell has to be given a real opportunity to compete for the job next pre-season.

redskins5044
11-01-2006, 09:48 AM
if moss doenst play this week all of us fans better get used to the five yard dump passes to the RB's this week more than we have already seen. with no moss that means we wont even seen a brunnell lame duck ball that moss has to go get. on offense is to easy to defend if portis doenst get off to a good first half. even if he does when it comes down to those third and 8 plays brunell will throw short of the first and we will punt. our defense is a whole other issue. we cant tackle on run plays on first and second down which sets up short third down plays for them. when we down have them in a third and long we almost always find a way to give them the first down. this season is done we went 2-5 with brunell as our leader. i dont want to hear its not all his fault because i know its not. but how many times has he had time in the pocket and checked down to rb. this is a great strategy when u have a good defense and are leading in games but when our defense sucks and are behind alot. take a chance this is a risk and reward playing style but we are losing make a play or try for the big throw. why doenst he because he has a noddle of a arm and his done as starter.

marius
11-01-2006, 09:49 AM
While the coaches are hardly likely to put him in and say the season is over I believe that they will only do so when the season is over. They could put Campbell in and he may add a spark but surely Brunell is more likely to get a win that Campbell? Brunell, for all his faults has proven that he can win in this league. It seems inevitable that we won't be going to the playoffs so let's wait and throw Campbell in when that happens. In the meantime let's back Brunell to get it done even though it is a long shot.

You've got to put in who you think will get the job done and the bottom line is that Brunell is that man at the moment (God help us!)

Daseal
11-01-2006, 09:51 AM
The question should no longer be who gives us the best chance to win, but it should be who gives us less of a chance at losing. As we know, Brunell hasn't done that. So why not try the new guy who might have something before the season is completely over (though I already think it's over.)

BrunellMVP?
11-01-2006, 09:57 AM
i would agree with you re: brunell...start him v dallas, although i clearly think he is washed up, but i think you need to consider the fact that benching him is not just a result of his play (which has been bad), but also a function of the performance of the rest of the team. while he is a large part of the reason, brunell is not soley reponsible for the 2-5 record (horrible D?!?!?!). Therefore, I would argue that objectively reviewing the season, and our prospects moving forward, the season is, in essence, over (barring a 7-2 run). We need to start grooming JC, today... i think he missed a great opportunity with the bye week.
on a brighter note, looking around the NFL, there are a lot of young QBs out there...who knows, perhaps campbell will find early sucess, and lead us on that 7-2 run! (ever the optimist)

marius
11-01-2006, 09:58 AM
The question should no longer be who gives us the best chance to win, but it should be who gives us less of a chance at losing.

Isn't that the same thing?

EternalEnigma21
11-01-2006, 10:00 AM
yeah, brunell's record is speaking louder than any "realist". I don't see how campbell could make things any worse, and if he's worth Half of what we gave to get him, he should be capable of making a playoff run.

Quick Question...

what happens if we leave brunell in and we do make the playoffs this year?
The D would definately have to step up, but Brunell could be a huge part of that, and if he does come back swinging, do we get rid of him next year?

I wonder if that happens, (and dont say it couldn't because this is exactly what Gibbs is wanting to happen, and he's got faith it will...) will brunell be back next year, and would we want to go through a learning curve with JC next year as he gets acclimated to an offense it apparently takes a year to get acclimated to for someone who didn't score a 7 on the wonderlick....

not a shot or anything, just a question...

marius
11-01-2006, 10:05 AM
yeah, brunell's record is speaking louder than any "realist". I don't see how campbell could make things any worse, and if he's worth Half of what we gave to get him, he should be capable of making a playoff run.

Quick Question...

what happens if we leave brunell in and we do make the playoffs this year?
The D would definately have to step up, but Brunell could be a huge part of that, and if he does come back swinging, do we get rid of him next year?

I wonder if that happens, (and dont say it couldn't because this is exactly what Gibbs is wanting to happen, and he's got faith it will...) will brunell be back next year, and would we want to go through a learning curve with JC next year as he gets acclimated to an offense it apparently takes a year to get acclimated to for someone who didn't score a 7 on the wonderlick....

not a shot or anything, just a question...

A valid question. Wouldn't it be great if we had that problem next year? I'd be very happy if we got the playoffs with Brunell as starter and then had to wonder about next year, wouldn't you?

Anyway, the Redskins have proven time and again that they don't really plan for the future but are more concerned with now!

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