Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings

They would more than make up the $6.5 mil they'd lose by cutting Archuleta with dumping Brunell, Daniels and Wynn. ($6.73 million)

Can anyone honestly say there would be any noticeable difference with the latter two off the team?

Maybe he'll be so miserable that he'll buy his way out of the contract to go to Chicago.

Here are some players who, in my judgment, are vulnerable to being handed their walking papers. Some are only slight possibilities to get cut (like Thrash because Gibbs loves him on special teams), others are locks (like John Hall). But these are the possibles.

Mark Brunell - $2.33 m
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m
John Hall - $1.5 m
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
Christian Fauria - $1.0 m
Mike Rumph - $1.0 m
Joe Salave'a - $710K
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Khary Campbell - $500K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Nick Novak - $435K

We'd also save a bit by cutting Jansen, Randy Thomas, or Rabach. But I'm assuming that ain't happening.

These are the guys we're stuck with 'till death do us part (or till salary cap hell do us in). We can't renegotiate to give us much relief in '07, and we can't cut them or we'll absorb this:

Antwaan Randle El: $7.5 m hit to cut
Andre Carter: $6.8 m hit to cut
Adam Archuleta: $6.5 m hit to cut
Brandon Lloyd: $6.5 m hit to cut
Carlos Rogers: $5.3 m hit to cut
David Patten: $2.2 m hit to cut

Not that we'd want to cut all those guys (except ahem, Archuleta).

You are forgetting one big name. Clinton Portis. He has a HUGE number next year and it is possible that he may be playing elsewhere in 07. Re-sign Betts and Duckett and go with that combination. You know Gibbs likes the big back anyway and I think that is one of the reasons Duckett was brought in here. Becasue of the Portis situation next year. As good as Portis is it might make sense to move in another direction to place the big money he makes in other areas of need.

You are forgetting one big name. Clinton Portis. He has a HUGE number next year and it is possible that he may be playing elsewhere in 07. Re-sign Betts and Duckett and go with that combination. You know Gibbs likes the big back anyway and I think that is one of the reasons Duckett was brought in here. Becasue of the Portis situation next year. As good as Portis is it might make sense to move in another direction to place the big money he makes in other areas of need.

If you think Portis will or should be gone in 2007, you need to stop free-basing.

I dont see how Brunell is anything but a must cut. He is really washed up, and we have Todd Collins for cheap. Make Todd our number two, and I would be confident with him stepping in, bc atleast he knows Al's stuff really. Draft some scum in the latter rounds, or pickup a cheap free agent for third in the depth chart.

Rock Cartwright - $450K (Goodbye)ARE return kicks



You couldnt be more wrong about Rock. He is a beast at kickoffs, and you DONT want ARE returning kicks, bc that is more tiring, and beating on a reciever. Especially to do both kick and punt returns. Plus he is super cheap(did I forget to mention "super-smart"?), and even if he wants more loot, we could afford to give him a bit more, if anything he deserves it.

This would be a stupid cut just to save 450K.

Also, Betts may not be here next season, even if we give him the money, bc I he is turning heads in the NFL for a potential starting job. Rock would be good to keep to fill that spot.

Maybe he'll be so miserable that he'll buy his way out of the contract to go to Chicago.

You think anyone is gonna want him after the way he has looked this year?

Do you guys realize we are gonna be in huge trouble in a couple years when ARE's and AA's contracts start becoming really expensive. I really hope ARE will restructure then, he seems really committed to the team.

If you think Portis will or should be gone in 2007, you need to stop free-basing.

I'm not saying I want him gone becasue I don't. What I'm saying is that his number is real big next year and you know they are going to ask him to renegotiate. So there is a chance he could be let go. His contract is basically a three year deal. Needs are everywhere. O-line, D-line, linebacker and 2ndary. The whole team is so top heavy, meaning too much money is invested in the starters and not enough invested in quality depth. Do I think we could win with Betts, Duckett and Cartwright? Hell yeah. I believe you win with defense and you can replace RB's. Yes Portis is a great back but I would rather have two disruptive pass rushers on our front 7 than Portis.

couple notes on comments here:

1. after lavar gave money back, they fixed the CBA to prevent players from being allowed to return guaranteed money... i don't know the specifics, so i'm not sure if there's still a possible loophole, but i don't think you can ever count on that.

2. when ARE, AA, etc's contracts jump from vet min salary to ~4mill a year, 60% of the signing bonus (6mill) will be off the books, so they could be cut for no savings at that point. Not a great situation, since it'll still be 4mill of unusable cap space per, but it's not cataclysmic... the combined result or so many exploding contracts is bad though :( (unless you can stretch it until another TV deal comes to bail us out, which is NOT a great idea).

3. It's too bad patten got signed to an extension due to the cap crisis :/ otherwise he'd be easy to ditch or trade (he'd be decent for another team at under a 2mill/year average).

4. Dockery and betts should be re-signed, since they have more value here than with any other team, so the prices should be low (hopefully they don't get blown away, in which case, matching would be a bad idea).

5. the cuts - that list is slim pickings :/. when looking through it, remember that some guys CANNOT be replaced any cheaper (price/performance), and the min. cost to fill a roster spot is ~250k (rookie) or 425k (vet 1 year deal).

suggested cuts:
Mark Brunell - $2.33 m
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m (use high first round pick on adam gaines)
John Hall - $1.5 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
Christian Fauria - $1.0 m
Mike Rumph - $1.0 m


emergency cuts:
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m (cheap safeties are always available)
James Thrash - $1.3 m (4 deep + RBs/TEs/FBs/street FAs is good enough)
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m (wouldn't leave us with any depth)

keeps:
Joe Salave'a - $710K (cheap, not much DT depth)
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Khary Campbell - $500K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Nick Novak - $435K

I'd guess one of wynn or daniels will re-structure... if not, there's a good chance only one (or neither) will be back - but replacements would have to be lined up first.

the big thing is to clear room to try and get clements signed, since we don't have 2 first day draft picks to address both DE and CB.

couple notes on comments here:

1. after lavar gave money back, they fixed the CBA to prevent players from being allowed to return guaranteed money... i don't know the specifics, so i'm not sure if there's still a possible loophole, but i don't think you can ever count on that.

2. when ARE, AA, etc's contracts jump from vet min salary to ~4mill a year, 60% of the signing bonus (6mill) will be off the books, so they could be cut for no savings at that point. Not a great situation, since it'll still be 4mill of unusable cap space per, but it's not cataclysmic... the combined result or so many exploding contracts is bad though :( (unless you can stretch it until another TV deal comes to bail us out, which is NOT a great idea).

3. It's too bad patten got signed to an extension due to the cap crisis :/ otherwise he'd be easy to ditch or trade (he'd be decent for another team at under a 2mill/year average).

4. Dockery and betts should be re-signed, since they have more value here than with any other team, so the prices should be low (hopefully they don't get blown away, in which case, matching would be a bad idea).

5. the cuts - that list is slim pickings :/. when looking through it, remember that some guys CANNOT be replaced any cheaper (price/performance), and the min. cost to fill a roster spot is ~250k (rookie) or 425k (vet 1 year deal).

suggested cuts:
Mark Brunell - $2.33 m
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m (use high first round pick on adam gaines)
John Hall - $1.5 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
Christian Fauria - $1.0 m
Mike Rumph - $1.0 m


emergency cuts:
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m (cheap safeties are always available)
James Thrash - $1.3 m (4 deep + RBs/TEs/FBs/street FAs is good enough)
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m (wouldn't leave us with any depth)

keeps:
Joe Salave'a - $710K (cheap, not much DT depth)
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Khary Campbell - $500K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Nick Novak - $435K

I'd guess one of wynn or daniels will re-structure... if not, there's a good chance only one (or neither) will be back - but replacements would have to be lined up first.

the big thing is to clear room to try and get clements signed, since we don't have 2 first day draft picks to address both DE and CB.


I like Clemons but they had better get some pass rushers first. I think that will help the 2ndary and hopefully Carlos R. will get better. I don't see how Wynn will be back and Brunell will be back.