Redskins, Jaguars interested in Ogunleye

Like the Broncos with their running game, a lot of people say the same about the other end opposite Taylor on the Dolphins line. They think you could plug anyoen in there and he would be productive.
I dont think thats the case though, if it was they wouldnt care so much about keeping him. The dolphins havent even said yet that they want to trade him.
If we could get him im sure it woudl be a great upgrade for us, but I dont know if we would win the trade battle unless we want to give up a first and third. If there was a way to get him without giving up the first then itd woudl be awesome.

ask yourself why do we need a first so bad (hopefully it'd be real late too)? we'd prolly use it for a DE anyway. w/o knowing how he could handle the NFL. a WR? like Gardner? all big risks. this guy is here now, young and tested.

Snyder is about to prove to the whole league how overrated the draft is. everyone agrees he's up to something good since the Jetskins, singlehandedly gonna change the league. he's come a long way from Deion and Jeff George.

Gardner probably has more trade value than anyone else on the roster and we're pretty deep with our WR corps if we'll rely on double TE formations. I was hoping a deal would've happen sooner (before draft ended).

Coles was drafted in what, the seonc round. And when did teh dolphins draft him, i know he wanst earlier than 4th, I cant remember if he was even drafted. Coles was a huge pick up for us, but we could have also drafted him. Look at all the players that were drafted in teh first round that are stars now. Yes its a gamble, theres plenty of busts to, but thats always why they odnt make a lot of money.
And youre assuming that if we trade our first for him that he comes in and dominates. WHat if he comes in and is a huge bust, then what. They we have another overpaid player, and no draft choice. If you draft someone and they turn out to be a bust the penalty is a lot less.
Its a gamble no matter how you cut it, I just hope whatever Synder decides that we get the best of it.

And youre assuming that if we trade our first for him that he comes in and dominates. WHat if he comes in and is a huge bust, then what. They we have another overpaid player, and no draft choice. If you draft someone and they turn out to be a bust the penalty is a lot less.
Its a gamble no matter how you cut it, I just hope whatever Synder decides that we get the best of it.

maybe not dominates, but better than anything we got or have had in forever? SAFE BET. this guy led the league and sacks his second year. didnt do too bad for his first, how much better is that than a draftee of unknown number?

And what exactly do you mean by he is doing better getting into shape this year?? name one person in the NFL that has ever been in better shape than David Boston.

I'm not sure where you get your info. Here are some quotes from many different sources about his shape this year and last. This is what I have been reading:

"WR David Boston again missed practice because of a shin injury, although he was on the field to watch the drills. HC Dave Wannstedt said he thinks Boston's weight contributed to the injury. "He is heavier than he needs to be, but he has lost weight from where he was," said Wannstedt."

"HC Dave Wannstedt said he was much happier with the performance of WR David Boston, who missed the previous quarterback school with a calf injury. Boston was on the field and appeared in better condition than during the first minicamp, when he struggled to catch his breath at times. Wannstedt had expressed his displeasure with Boston during the previous quarterback school."

"2003 Hot Sheet Outlook
Boston was a total bust in San Diego last season and the Dolphins hope he can spark their lackluster passing attack after they acquired him in an offseason trade. His monster 2001 season in Arizona looks like a mirage, but he's certainly better than what he displayed with the Chargers. He showed up to Miami's minicamp overweight, and that may have contributed to a shin injury that hobbled him in early May. Buyer beware. "

"The Dolphins believe Boston plays his best at 229 pounds, but in two months, Boston hasn't shed a pound and still is around 240. Coach Dave Wannstedt believes weight was an issue for Boston in San Diego and doesn't want it to be here. "

"The Dolphins believe excess weight may have contributed to lower leg bleeding that kept Boston out of the first three days of quarterback school."

"Now we can see where a bit of Boston's attitude problems may be coming from, huh? If his personal trainer advises him to ignore his employer's trainers, it seems like a natural source of some of the friction that we heard about regarding Boston in San Diego last year. Will Boston "shape up" and please the Dolphins, or will his spiral out of favor continue in Miami? We'll keep you posted. "

"The loss spoiled a two-touchdown highlight show from Boston, who himself returned from a one-game suspension for violating team rules -- the coaching staff's code for being overweight. "

"Is anyone surprised by the David Boston situation in San Diego? All the Arizona people we talked to before the season predicted a meltdown with Boston playing for Marty Schottenheimer. The coach sent him home Wednesday for a series of disciplinary problems. Boston plays the game at times as if he doesn't care. Repeating the view here when he was signed: Boston was a bad signing for a team that needed defensive help. It's worse now since he's causing problems again. "The guy is a weird, strange man," said one Cardinals staffer. "It was only a matter of time."

Don't draft this guy in the early rounds of your fantasy league...

He weighs 240 and they want him to be lighter but hes not overwight with fat at 240. Its all muscle weight. Do you remember when the Skins played him, he dominated us every game. They want him to weigh less because they think it will make him faster, and mabye it will a little. Im just waiting for a team to play Boston at TE.

I didnt know about the shin injury though, so thanks for that info.

Canes, you may be right about the muscle vs. fat, I don't know. That is certainly what his agent claims. If that is so, my choice of the term "shape" was poor. But, still, I don't think he is a lock for #2. Regardless of any numbers, he is generally regarded to have been a major "disappointment" in each of his last two seasons. Both Schottenheimer and Wannstadt have complained about his weight. But neither is on my list of great coaches, so it's hard to tell what the real problem is. In any case, I'm sure Wannstadt would not mind having some significant competition at the spot to encourage all of them to peak performance. I guess I am just wishfully thinking of a way to get a major boost to our DL without giving up anything that will hurt. LOL

I think Boston will have a big year this year, and if he lines up against number 2 corners I think he will dominate them. The guy is a beast, i dont know what hes deal has been but his a mismatch against any corner when hes in there playing and healthy.

Boston may be pumped but that doesn't necessarly help as a WR. As you build up muscle you build up bulk and reduce agility and swiftness. You may have supurb stength but look at the best martial artists in the world they never look totally ripped or bulked up becasue it interefers with their mobity. I am sure they are not commenting on Boston being fat just being too big and if he keeps ignoring trainers and coaches advice then I don't see him playing anywhere as a No.2 or even 3 receiver.