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hooskins 11-21-2006, 11:45 AM AT least they made the playoffs last year. If you go to the playoffs you don't reconstruct the offense. So everyone has to learn a new offense all over again.
Wrong again, yeah we made it to the playoffs, but our offense didnt make it anywhere at all. The Skins are better than just a playoff team, and they should be able to make it to the further rounds with the current talent.
If we went this year with the same offense I promise you the Ds would have picked up, and we would have similar performances.
Why change? Because we barely made it out of the wild card game, and our offense was culprit. We had bigger and higher dreams, and bc we made the playoffs, we wanted to take it to the next step. Our D was fine last year(I feel that change was not needed at all), but our offense was completely owned.
It was not like we put in a new offense last year and it was taking time to develop, the offense had been in place for two years, but it had never really gotten going. And when it was simplified, it worked for 4 games, and then it was completely stopped.
That is why change was needed. Gibbs system was in place for two years, and it didnt work. It would be beyond unfair to not give Al ATLEAST two years, because he is proven as well.
The offense isn't even the main issue right now. Fix the D and most of our problems would be solved. I don't know why some people are so intent on focusing on the offense. It's too late for any wholesale changes to the systems at this point in the year anyway.
hooskins 11-21-2006, 11:47 AM All I have to say is KC never went to the SB with AL but GIbbs has 3 rings
Congrats, KC never had a good D. We were suppose to have one this year, but that didnt happen. I honestly felt we would barely make the playoffs this year, and I had somewhat expected the offense not to click right away.
I did not expect our D to suck ass, that why we are in a hole right now. If our D was like last years, we would still be in the running.
If that is all you have to counter me with, then this debate is over.
DGreen28 11-21-2006, 11:53 AM Congrats, KC never had a good D. We were suppose to have one this year, but that didnt happen. I honestly felt we would barely make the playoffs this year, and I had somewhat expected the offense not to click right away.
I did not expect our D to suck ass, that why we are in a hole right now. If our D was like last years, we would still be in the running.
If that is all you have to counter me with, then this debate is over.
All the skins needed last was WR's not a hole new offense. Do you think that Lloyd and ARE wouldn't have made a difference!
freddyg12 11-21-2006, 11:54 AM the real question is would replacing brunell have 'fixed' Gibbs' offense? The O played well until MB got hurt against the NYG. Even Ramsey came in & threw some td's. That inconsistency we saw at the end of last year had a lot to do w/brunell's knees. Teams were stackin the box w/no fear of our passing game.
hooskins 11-21-2006, 11:57 AM the real question is would replacing brunell have 'fixed' Gibbs' offense? The O played well until MB got hurt against the NYG. Even Ramsey came in & threw some td's. That inconsistency we saw at the end of last year had a lot to do w/brunell's knees. Teams were stackin the box w/no fear of our passing game.
I think putting in Ramsey would give us a better chance, but I would have still predicted the same exact result.
I dont feel all of that was because of Brunell's injury, it was because of a very simple offense that the defenses picked up rather easily.
DGreen28 11-21-2006, 11:58 AM The offense isn't even the main issue right now. Fix the D and most of our problems would be solved. I don't know why some people are so intent on focusing on the offense. It's too late for any wholesale changes to the systems at this point in the year anyway.
If the O doesn't control Time of Poss. The defense get wore down by the fourth quarter. That is the key to GIBBS FOOTBALL
hooskins 11-21-2006, 12:00 PM If the O doesn't control Time of Poss. The defense get wore down by the fourth quarter. That is the key to GIBBS FOOTBALL
Al does have a bit adjusting to do, and I am sure he is aware of it. He has gotten away from the run, and I expect more run from him next game.
Regardless, pulling him is NOT the solution. You yourself have clearly stated changing offense alot is bad. Ok we changed to Al, he is proven, so lets keep it.
Gibbs v2.0 got two full years, and it was inconsistent. Now give Al two years, dont be hypocritical.
DGreen28 11-21-2006, 12:01 PM I think putting in Ramsey would give us a better chance, but I would have still predicted the same exact result.
I dont feel all of that was because of Brunell's injury, it was because of a very simple offense that the defenses picked up rather easily.
Keep it simple so the offensive players understand it. It does not matter how complex the playbbook is if the QB does not understand. But your right about Ramsey
DGreen28 11-21-2006, 12:02 PM Al does have a bit adjusting to do, and I am sure he is aware of it. He has gotten away from the run, and I expect more run from him next game.
Regardless, pulling him is NOT the solution. You yourself have clearly stated changing offense alot is bad. Ok we changed to Al, he is proven, so lets keep it.
Gibbs v2.0 got two full years, and it was inconsistent. Now give Al two years, dont be hypocritical.
GIBBS is the head coach and Al is not. Look at the Ravens situation
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