We hold these truths to be self-evident...

" We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."


You know, you could have just said happy 4th of July and we would have all been happy but then you had to add that quote. Those who wrote those words were not morally righteous men and you know why without me having to go into details.


Happy 4th of July Everyone. Make sure you hit the gym tomorrow :P

They gave you the right like in no other nation to talk bad about them 228 years later.
Bravo to them!

peace
And if "slavery" is your point I would ask you "What as an American are you doing to stop modern day slavery?" Surely you must know that African groups take other tribes into slavery still to this day.

As to if these founding Fathers were "morally righteous men" to what standards do you hold them? Were they perfect like Christ? No. But you have given no proof they are someone "not" to be thought of as ones that had a good intent.

If they did not do a perfect job at a Nation...show me a better one or by all means...start one.

~just shakes head

GOD bless America
mike

You know, you could have just said happy 4th of July and we would have all been happy but then you had to add that quote. Those who wrote those words were not morally righteous men and you know why without me having to go into details.


Happy 4th of July Everyone. Make sure you hit the gym tomorrow :P


I ADDED a QUOTE from Our Nation's Declaration of Independance. Sorry I had a bad source of text to quote for you Sir.

peace
mike a Proud American

can't you all feel the love? ;) I could of sworn this was a day of celebration and not argueing over trival things.

God bless america and happy b-day cpayne5 and to azskinsfan2 tommorrow as well.

Yeah, i'd hate to think we need a moderation system to kill trolling heh... I spent today doing absolutely nothing exciting :)

but i'm always thankful :)
best wishes.

how does a happy 4th of July thread turn into such crap??

thread locked.

idiots

I think we have all got Big C wrong, he was in mid conversation with his partner, who just so happens to be a sheep.

So what does 'Meh' mean? Did it get you anywhere with your sheep?