Considering moving Springs to safety...

I think Rogers will be okay. I think there was a serious breakdwon in our coaching this year, I don't care what anyone says. If you have one guy down, and your defense can't adjust, that's a coaching and a scheming issue to me.

On a lot of the big plays we gave up this year, it seems that guys were constantly way out of position or nowhere near the ball. Taylor was often chasing people down from behind, when Archuletta did play, he was typically pursuing from behind, same with Rogers. I just refuse to believe that this group of talented guys have fallen off that much in, what, two years.

That being said, I'll put those dropped interceptions squarely on Rogers. But even still, I don't feel like they utilized him to the best of his ability. For instance, why do you play a guy with his speed that far off the receiver? Why not develop that shutdown mentality?

My only knock on Williams is that it seems like he played it safe all year long and it killed us. Getting turnovers are a result of letting guys play and taking risks. For all the good things Gregg Williams has done and for all the praise he gets, it just seems that one elment, the turnover factor, has seemed to be missing since he arrived here.

My favorite Rodgers interview was the one after the Tampa Bay game, when they asked him about the play where Joey Galloway burned him on that slant for a touchdown. This is not verbatim, but he said something like, what did you expect? They ran a play action and I had single coverage against "the fastest guy in the NFL," what was I supposed to do? At this point, my opinion about him kinda changed, who says something like that? Ha, even Carlos admits he can't cover people when he doesn't have help. You're a professional, Carlos, man up and make a freakin play boy.
Please, explain to me WHAT Rogers could have done on that play. There's nothing you can do in single coverage vs a slant, especially someone with that type of speed. I remember talking to gmanc during the game, we both agreed that Rogers wasn't put in a position to make a play. That's nearly an impossible play for a DB to make.

Maybe this is why the Redskins don't draft. One of the hardest positions in the NFL to play, and our top pick of only two years ago, should be playing like an all-pro? It takes time to learn, get used to the NFL, etc. We need to give our draft picks time to adjust and learn how to play, and I think Rogers will be our #1 corner in a few years and will be great.

Rogers is a very solid player and will only get better. We all talked about Jason Campbells rookie mistakes, why isn't Rogers who was drafted in the same year allowed to have them.

No pass rush, very little help from the safeties and even the other corner. Put this guy in a position to break up plays, etc and he'll get them. Answer me this: what other DB even got in position to make INTs this year. The answer is none.

some of the play making corners jump the slant route, either intercepting the pass, or at least knock it down. but i am not ready to give up on rogers, just yet. if he has another season like this years, then i start to worry

The only legitimate complaint you can make about Rogers are his brick hands. The nice thing about the ball hitting his hands so often, though, is the fact that he's there to make some sort of play on the ball rather than be 5 yards away or on his butt. A CB is going to get burnt, no doubt. What's an acceptable amount of plays in which the CB does get burnt in a season? 4? 5? I'd say 4 that leads to a score (TD or ensuing FG)

I was hoping to see a little more improvement from Rogers this year but at the same time with the total collapse of the D in general it's tough to point fingers at individuals.

Right, because can you seriously say ANYONE played stellar on the defensive side of the ball?

Right, because can you seriously say ANYONE played stellar on the defensive side of the ball?

Nope.

Nobody played consistently well all season.

Please, explain to me WHAT Rogers could have done on that play. There's nothing you can do in single coverage vs a slant, especially someone with that type of speed. I remember talking to gmanc during the game, we both agreed that Rogers wasn't put in a position to make a play. That's nearly an impossible play for a DB to make.

Maybe this is why the Redskins don't draft. One of the hardest positions in the NFL to play, and our top pick of only two years ago, should be playing like an all-pro? It takes time to learn, get used to the NFL, etc. We need to give our draft picks time to adjust and learn how to play, and I think Rogers will be our #1 corner in a few years and will be great.

Rogers is a very solid player and will only get better. We all talked about Jason Campbells rookie mistakes, why isn't Rogers who was drafted in the same year allowed to have them.

No pass rush, very little help from the safeties and even the other corner. Put this guy in a position to break up plays, etc and he'll get them. Answer me this: what other DB even got in position to make INTs this year. The answer is none.

Maybe it's a tough play to defend, and the receiver does have the advantage, but it can still be done. I see corners jump slant routes often enough to believe that it's not too inconceivable. What do I think Rodgers should have done on that play? Not given the "fastet guy in the NFL" a ten yard cusion, and let him get up to full speed. There's one thing I can think of.
I agree with you in the fact that the odds were against him on making a play on that ball, but I think it was ridiculous that he told the media that there was nothing he could do about it. He just sounded so nonchalant when he said it. Yeah man, no big deal, my man burned me for a TD, but hey, there's nothing I could do about that one. His reaction to the play is what really bothered me, not so much that he let up the TD. I just think he woulda sounded a little more classy if he said something like, Joey put a good move on me, I gotta work on jumping those slant routes in practice next week. Not, there's nothing I can do about it, that just sounds like a bad attitude to me.

Maybe it's a tough play to defend, and the receiver does have the advantage, but it can still be done. I see corners jump slant routes often enough to believe that it's not too inconceivable. What do I think Rodgers should have done on that play? Not given the "fastet guy in the NFL" a ten yard cusion, and let him get up to full speed. There's one thing I can think of.
I agree with you in the fact that the odds were against him on making a play on that ball, but I think it was ridiculous that he told the media that there was nothing he could do about it. He just sounded so nonchalant when he said it. Yeah man, no big deal, my man burned me for a TD, but hey, there's nothing I could do about that one. His reaction to the play is what really bothered me, not so much that he let up the TD. I just think he woulda sounded a little more classy if he said something like, Joey put a good move on me, I gotta work on jumping those slant routes in practice next week. Not, there's nothing I can do about it, that just sounds like a bad attitude to me.


I think his response about nothing he could do about it, perhaps, had something to do with "me doing what I'm taught to do" more than "me not actually being able to something to prevent it."

Have you ever wondered why we play our corners so far off the receiver?

I think his response about nothing he could do about it, perhaps, had something to do with "me doing what I'm taught to do" more than "me not actually being able to something to prevent it."

Have you ever wondered why we play our corners so far off the receiver?

Well, I still don't like it, not matter what the circumstances are. I guess it's just my opinion. I just feel like you can always make a play. What if we were playing the Chargers and LT got into the secondary on a run, and Rodgers was one on one with him, and needs to make the tackle or he scores at touchdown, and he can't bring him down and LT scores. Is it ok if he tells the media, hey, I'm just a cornerback, trying to tackle the best running back in the league, nothing I could do about it. IMO, no way. I don't think he'd get blamed for not making the tackle, but still, you always have a chance.
As far as that huge cussion goes. I'm really don't think that anyone knows for sure if Williams is telling him to do that, or if he does that by himself. djnemo65 wrote "Williams went out of his way to say that Rogers had not been coached to give up the huge cushion he was giving." Talking about after the Carolina game. So, I don't know that answer. Djnemo65, where did you hear that?