Mark Brunell, Phillip Daniels, Renaldo Wynn, Shawn Springs

My plan would be along the lines of SC's.

Cut either Wynn or Daniels, only get rid of Brunell if we can find a capable #2, restructure Springs. I'd also add the cutting of Hall.

How about when we draft a champ bailey or a fred smoot that we do not be so short sighted and get rid of them after we develope their talents, only for them to go somewhere else.

Champ was in his last year at Washington and wanted to get out. He was tired of losing. I can't say I blame him. The Redskins would have loved to have kept him.

Of all the blunders this team has made with personnel, you can't blame them for Champ clawing to get out.

But losing Smoot and Pierce were devastating.

I don't see why that qualification applies to Brunell, but not Collins. Brunell has the better arm of the two.

I think every QB in the league (including Pennington) can "push the ball downfield" so that's a pretty questionable qualification.


The point is we know what Brunell can do. It's over for the guy. He just looks old when he's playing. He can't avoid the rush, he can't throw it deep. What does he do that's good at this point of his career? Nothing.

losing Smoot and Pierce were devastating.


pierce, yes that hurt. smoot was not that good in the first place, no big loss there.

smoot had very good cover skills and he played through injuries and as for pierce that really hurt

My plan would be along the lines of SC's.

Cut either Wynn or Daniels, only get rid of Brunell if we can find a capable #2, restructure Springs. I'd also add the cutting of Hall.

Welp, I'd keep Brunell, because I think Brunell is a team guy and he said he would restructure, and he really dosent have a ton of options. He said he would only go elsewhere if he could start (and thats not happening) and said the only place he would be content as a backup is DC. I actually hope we keep Brunell, since it will be a backup situation.

As far as Wynn vs Daniels, its really a no brainer that Daniels is the better player at this point. I really like both guys, and I really really like Wynn, but he's just not that good of a player at this point in his career.

Springs I wouldnt get rid of under any circumstnace yet, unless we sign two CB's, one being Clements.

amorentz:

I did not know about the profootballtalk.com use of Stewart as the emoodiment of an average QB. I was just thinking of a QB that I thought was no better than average and Stewart came to mind. From there, it wasn't hard to find his career QB Rating. And it's damned close to Collins'.


skinsfan69:

If you think Brunell is too old to get it done, why is Collins so much more capable. Collins was born in 1971; you can to the math there; he'll be 36 this year. Granted Brunell makes a whole lot more than Collins and so he takes up more cap room. BUT, you have to admit that Brunell has earned those extra dollars because he's actually led teams deep into the playoffs in his career. Collins may have done that too if he ever had the chance; but then again he was never good enough to convince a coaching staff that he was.


Beemnsevem:

The Skins really didn't want to keep Champ all that much. The reason I say that is that if they had given him the same contract offer that they gave Portis, Bailey would have taken it. What they gave Portis was about what Champ was asking but the Skins were not willing to pay. That last statement is not meant to bad-mouth Portis in any way. It is simply to observe that the Skins had the money and the cap room to pay a player that kind of money and they did not want to give it to Champ but did want to give it to Portis. The team made a choice here; the trade was not forced upon them.


Matty:

Agree with you that cutting Hall makes a whole lot of sense ... so long as Redskins One doesn't go charging off to sign Van der Jagt!

Beemnsevem:

The Skins really didn't want to keep Champ all that much. The reason I say that is that if they had given him the same contract offer that they gave Portis, Bailey would have taken it. What they gave Portis was about what Champ was asking but the Skins were not willing to pay. That last statement is not meant to bad-mouth Portis in any way. It is simply to observe that the Skins had the money and the cap room to pay a player that kind of money and they did not want to give it to Champ but did want to give it to Portis. The team made a choice here; the trade was not forced upon them.


Well then, that does change things. I was always under the impression that Champ wanted out. Of course, maybe he still did - but I didn't know that Portis signed for what Champ was asking.

But here's the ultimate question: would this team have been better served by Champ rather than Portis? I've always maintained that unless you're talking LaDanian Tomlinson, any team can get by with just about any running back.

So then, yet another f*** up by this front office.

Champ wanted out

Champ wanted out

At least, that's what we hope.