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skinsfanthru&thru 07-23-2004, 03:58 PM I had asked a question a week or 2 back about whether anyone else thought the possible $10,000 fine Taylor would incur for missing one day at the rookie lectures and I have ask again since it seems the fine is going to be freaking $25,000 against Taylor. WTF dude?!?! I mean how can guys who miss the entire thing be fined 10 grand but taylor only misses one day, for atleast somewhat of a good reason, and he gets fined 2.5 times more than the regular fine? this just boggles my mind and hopefully I'm not the only skins fan kinda peved about this.
That Guy 07-23-2004, 09:31 PM its cause he's a high pick and they want to make an example out of him... seems high, but if i got 14 million this year, I wouldn't be quite as concerned.
skinsfanthru&thru 07-23-2004, 11:31 PM its cause he's a high pick and they want to make an example out of him... seems high, but if i got 14 million this year, I wouldn't be quite as concerned.
Wasn't ryan leaf the #2 selection when he got drafted but yet he was fined the same $10,000 fine. this makes no sense to me since he only missed one day where as others missed the entire thing and got fined the regular fine. what makes taylor's mistake so much worse than those before it?
That Guy 07-23-2004, 11:45 PM dunno, maybe its inflation at work :D
joecrisp 07-24-2004, 12:00 AM Wasn't ryan leaf the #2 selection when he got drafted but yet he was fined the same $10,000 fine. this makes no sense to me since he only missed one day where as others missed the entire thing and got fined the regular fine. what makes taylor's mistake so much worse than those before it?
It seems to me that the NFL is saying, "okay, so the fact we've fined guys $10,000 in the past isn't enough to deter these young punks from continuing to skip our mandatory rookie symposium? Well then, we'll just have to bump it up to $25,000 and see what they think of that! Not enough? You guys just keep skipping, and we'll keep multiplying the fine, and then maybe you'll get the hint."
I say good for the NFL. This whole rookie symposium thing is supposed to be a reality check. These guys have to realize they're professionals now, and they have to start conducting themselves as such. Anybody who blows off the mandates of their employer is going to suffer the consequences, and these guys should not be exempt. Keep bumping up the fine until there's 100% attendance.
As for Mr. Taylor, I hope this wakes him from the stupor he seems to have been in for the past 3 months. He needed a swift kick in the ass, and the NFL gave it to him.
skinsfanthru&thru 07-24-2004, 11:12 AM It seems to me that the NFL is saying, "okay, so the fact we've fined guys $10,000 in the past isn't enough to deter these young punks from continuing to skip our mandatory rookie symposium? Well then, we'll just have to bump it up to $25,000 and see what they think of that! Not enough? You guys just keep skipping, and we'll keep multiplying the fine, and then maybe you'll get the hint."
I say good for the NFL. This whole rookie symposium thing is supposed to be a reality check. These guys have to realize they're professionals now, and they have to start conducting themselves as such. Anybody who blows off the mandates of their employer is going to suffer the consequences, and these guys should not be exempt. Keep bumping up the fine until there's 100% attendance.
As for Mr. Taylor, I hope this wakes him from the stupor he seems to have been in for the past 3 months. He needed a swift kick in the ass, and the NFL gave it to him.
what u said is true but if u have to be somewhere else, u gotta be somewhere else. I say just fine him maybe 5grand and make him go again next year for the whole thing. I mean the guy is still pretty much a kid who didn't have an agent, like the other players do, looking out for him. We still don't know why he went w/o an agent for so long and the reason could be innane or it could be because he wanted to make sure he found someone he trusted for instance if rosenhaus(sp?) had done something to cause taylor to make him question his own agent.
all in all I think this is bs cuz he only missed one day because he needed to get his stuff out of his apartment before getting evicted. I mean Ron Dayne, coming into the league as the Heisman trophy winner, didn't even bother to come for any of the rookie lectures and yet he still got the regular fine.
I could see the nfl maybe raising the fine but not 2.5 times the previous highest fine for someone who only missed one third of the event.
That Guy 07-24-2004, 11:33 AM thing is this is real life, come prepared or don't play ;) he honestly should have had some forewarning before getting evicted (like 2 months, it takes forever to kick someone out), and I'm not sure who would kick out a top 5 pick knowing all the money they'd have in short order... this whole rookie symposium is to tell them about their priorities and keeping on top of things, some stuff he obviously needed to hear more about, but he might have missed that part ;)
don't mean to sound harsh, but its not like he didnt know about this or have no warning about being evicted (if that actually happened), and him not having an agent watching out for him for 3 months is his fault, not the league's...
joecrisp 07-24-2004, 03:20 PM Exactly, That Guy. It's not like his landlord would have suddenly decided to evict the kid without some kind of previous, and most likely repeated, warning. It's pretty clear Taylor was procrastinating in tying up whatever loose ends needed his attention, and that's precisely the kind of irresponsible and immature behavior that this symposium is intended to reduce.
The thing is, a lot of these kids are big-time primadonnas, who have become accustomed to a lifestyle wherein the rules don't apply to them, and anything that is considered a nuisance-- such as a mandatory symposium-- is simply brushed aside. That kind of attitude is what gets so many professional athletes into trouble, and that's why the league is taking such a hardline approach to dealing with it.
Taylor should have had his personal affairs in order well in advance of the symposium, and if he had a pressing matter which needed his attention, he should have notified the league and the team of the situation, and obtained their permission to leave. He did neither, and therefore the fine is more than justified.
Hogskin 07-24-2004, 04:40 PM Wasn't ryan leaf the #2 selection when he got drafted but yet he was fined the same $10,000 fine. this makes no sense to me since he only missed one day where as others missed the entire thing and got fined the regular fine. what makes taylor's mistake so much worse than those before it?
It hit me exactly the same when I heard about his fine - seemed extremely steep for ONE day, compared to much less for missing the entire "show". But, we don't know what transpired when he left. And the others were a few years ago. Fines tend to grow in the NFL. God knows, the SALARIES do, so if the fines are going to mean anything, they have to also.
That Guy 07-24-2004, 07:22 PM in norway (i think, forget which country exactly) speeding ticket fines are based on your annual income (because they figure richer people wouldn't be detered otherwise), and some people have been hit with fines of up to 440,000 (USD equivalent)... I know a lot of people around here that drive on HOV with only 1 person, and expect to be caught at least once or twice a year, but continue to do so, because the fines aren't big enough compared to saving 10 minutes everyday.
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