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jrocx69
03-04-2007, 03:19 PM
Schneed - I agree with you - the money being thrown around on players is silly money in my book.

One question though - could the FO have at least tried to place the franchise or transition tag on Dockery so we could have at least gotten some draft picks in return or were the Skins too restricted by the cap?

franchise dock? lmao

Beemnseven
03-04-2007, 03:34 PM
I think it's time to praise our front office a bit for remaining cool, calm, and collected in the midst of an insane market.

We've kept our heads about us and haven't done anything to severely jeopardize our cap future.

I'll wait to see how they do with the draft before I heap any praise upon them.

As far as free agency goes, I believe it's been more a testament to their inability to do anything insane as opposed to their desire to do something like that.

Bill B
03-04-2007, 03:38 PM
Doing that would have really handcuffed us for this offseason.

Matty - I agree with you - I just hate our team losing guys without getting anything in return. Oh well - maybe Puchillo will fill in admirably or we trade down and put a rookie in who surprises us.

skinsguy
03-04-2007, 03:51 PM
I'll wait to see how they do with the draft before I heap any praise upon them.

As far as free agency goes, I believe it's been more a testament to their inability to do anything insane as opposed to their desire to do something like that.

This doesn't make any sense? Whether if you're one to look at something half full or half empty, you can't deny the fact that the front office has done a good job with free agency this offseason. We all know what Fred Smoot is capable of, and he is a definite upgrade for our secondary. And Fletcher is a 2-3 year upgrade for our team and his contract reflects that fact. I'd say they do deserve some credit for signing guys who fit well in our defense and these upgrades reflect a win now attitude, which is what the fans want as well.

Beemnseven
03-04-2007, 04:07 PM
This doesn't make any sense? Whether if you're one to look at something half full or half empty, you can't deny the fact that the front office has done a good job with free agency this offseason. We all know what Fred Smoot is capable of, and he is a definite upgrade for our secondary. And Fletcher is a 2-3 year upgrade for our team and his contract reflects that fact. I'd say they do deserve some credit for signing guys who fit well in our defense and these upgrades reflect a win now attitude, which is what the fans want as well.

If you want to do high-fives over London Fletcher and Fred Smoot, go right ahead. I'm comfortable with them, but let's see how they pan out first, that's all I'm saying.

With our cap situation, there wasn't a whole the front office could do.

MTK
03-04-2007, 04:11 PM
I'll wait to see how they do with the draft before I heap any praise upon them.

As far as free agency goes, I believe it's been more a testament to their inability to do anything insane as opposed to their desire to do something like that.

Not sure what you mean, after all we could have re-signed Dockery even at that crazy number. We could have made some other crazy moves too, if this front office wants to do something, they will. We could have easily dropped guys like Wynn, Daniels, Hall, Patten, etc., cleared a bunch of cap room and went to town in free agency.

We're definitely seeing a much more cautious approach.

Beemnseven
03-04-2007, 04:14 PM
Not sure what you mean, after all we could have re-signed Dockery even at that crazy number. We could have made some other crazy moves too, if this front office wants to do something, they will. We could have easily dropped guys like Wynn, Daniels, Hall, Patten, etc., cleared a bunch of cap room and went to town in free agency.

We're definitely seeing a more cautious approach to free agency.

The point is, if we had gobs of cap space, wouldn't it be more of the same?

The fact that they didn't re-sign Dock doesn't surprise me. Retaining their current "core" guys doesn't really fit their pattern.

MTK
03-04-2007, 04:22 PM
The point is, if we had gobs of cap space, wouldn't it be more of the same?

The fact that they didn't re-sign Dock doesn't surprise me. Retaining their current "core" guys doesn't really fit their pattern.

Like I said, had they wanted to they could have cleared alot more room and went to town.

Dock wasn't worth $49M, so core guy or not I don't see how anyone can hate on the fact they let him walk.

GoSkins!
03-04-2007, 04:24 PM
The point is, if we had gobs of cap space, wouldn't it be more of the same?

The fact that they didn't re-sign Dock doesn't surprise me. Retaining their current "core" guys doesn't really fit their pattern.

If signing a first round choice like Carter last year and giving him a 10mil signing bonus was stupid then what would it be to give our 5th best offensive lineman a 18 million dollar bonus?

Also, who decided that every guy that starts has been identified as a core redskin? I think there are "core redskins" and then there are "some that could possibly become core redskins". Dockery was almost a core guy, but if we had to lose a lineman, I'm glad was him and not one of the other guys. I'd like to see if we could get Wade and have him move inside. If it doesn't work, he is still excellent depth.

Beemnseven
03-04-2007, 04:50 PM
If signing a first round choice like Carter last year and giving him a 10mil signing bonus was stupid then what would it be to give our 5th best offensive lineman a 18 million dollar bonus?

Also, who decided that every guy that starts has been identified as a core redskin? I think there are "core redskins" and then there are "some that could possibly become core redskins". Dockery was almost a core guy, but if we had to lose a lineman, I'm glad was him and not one of the other guys. I'd like to see if we could get Wade and have him move inside. If it doesn't work, he is still excellent depth.

I would dispute that he was the fifth best offensive lineman. He was also the youngest, and was beginning to receive accolades from Joe Bugel. Whatever. To compare Dockery's value to Andre Carter is pretty vicious if you ask me. Maybe he would have been worth that $18 million bonus. I guess we'll see.

And who the hell knows what a "core" Redskin is. That's cryptic Gibbs-speak that apparently doesn't hold a lot of water. That's why I used quotation marks. I will say this, being part of a line that was fourth in the league in sacks given up with really strong running game makes every member of the offensive line that pretty valuable.

We'll see how wise and all-knowing this front office was when we see the production of the offensive line in 2007.

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