3/6/07 WP's JLC Rumors: Denver-Washington Trade, Bly, Okoye

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Crat92
03-07-2007, 07:27 PM
Springs hasn't been the same since T.O. burned him on the fade route for a td in Seattle. Remember, that was the "sharpie" play.

bedlamVR
03-07-2007, 08:18 PM
Please enough of the Rogers Bashing already...doesn't anyone remember how Baily was constantly and i meen conastanly beaten on 8 yard hooks also remember in Bailys developmental years he had the likes of Sanders and Green helping him out Rigers had for the most part of the year Kenny Wright and Mike Rumph.

The 10 yard cussion is a scheme thing it makes the play happen more infront of the CB meaning he is less likey to get beaten deap and they can respond and move down hill to a play as the play as unfolds meaning you CB's are more veritle defenders .

You will tend to find people play more press coverage in zone schemes where the CB is not left on an island and has safety help on most plays .

Also I doubt with few exceptions any of the 11 of 17 top 10 CBs mentioned in a previous post and put them in the same defence Rogers was in and in thier second year they would have strugled.

Anyway onto the trade and does anyone think it is odd that the only person pushing this is JLC. He has been pushing this since at least sunday an now a lot of the other outlets are picking up on his story days later . He was going for the scoop that the Skins were in trade talks with the Lions and Denver and would be part of a three way trade ala Duckett after picks. Now given that did not pan out he is pedling this other rumor.

Now something may come of this and I for one hope it doesn't . Bly may be great but not signifcantly better than Smoot Springs and Rogers so if you trade for him you instantly create a log jam at CB and would have to either trade or cut Springs . If you trade Betts then you weaken the team in one place RB to stay put at another. Plus you loose out on your chance to control your own destiny come draft day and miss an impact play at possition of need on the DL. I still think trading down is a good way to go but 21 is way tooo far.

rypper11
03-07-2007, 08:20 PM
Rogers isn't a phenom at CB but he's definitely better than PacMan (picked same time and a lot of people wanted PacMan instead). Rogers doesn't get picks but he does man cover well if he doesn't have to cover for 20 seconds while the D Line plays paddycake. He bites on the double move too much.

holcknowsbest
03-07-2007, 08:27 PM
i can promise you that 10 yrds off the ball is not a scheme thing.....there is no way a coach would call that unless he wanted to lose and give up the first down. 13 of those 17 produced much earlier....and champ didnt get beat deep as consistently....comparing champ and carlos is waerthless, although they were drafted at number 8 and 9 respectedly in the draft...yet another reason carlos isnt the player he should be or thought to be.....done arguing this point.....just admit it, i like him too but not letting him off the hook.

jdlea
03-07-2007, 08:33 PM
My problem with Rogers is that he plays that far off and still manages to get beat deep. I wish he would just play tight and jam guys, he's a physical tackler, he should be able to jam guys. I think he's better than he's played. I wouldn't mind him giving up 8 yard completions if it means he doesn't get beat deep.

bedlamVR
03-07-2007, 08:38 PM
My problem with Rogers is that he plays that far off and still manages to get beat deep. I wish he would just play tight and jam guys, he's a physical tackler, he should be able to jam guys. I think he's better than he's played. I wouldn't mind him giving up 8 yard completions if it means he doesn't get beat deep.

Yeah well there is that... :benched:

Monksdown
03-07-2007, 10:45 PM
Who is TAFKAS??


a long time ago he was that guy, just casually interested in the Redskins. you know the guy, who at some party 3 days after the press conference, gets told by the blondest chick that Joe Gibbs is coaching again. he used to be that guy. :) After he became a 'skinsophile, he transformed himself into a SUPERMODERATOR.

That Guy
03-07-2007, 10:48 PM
he used to be that guy. :)

liar!

dmek25
03-08-2007, 05:20 AM
Rogers isn't a phenom at CB but he's definitely better than PacMan (picked same time and a lot of people wanted PacMan instead). Rogers doesn't get picks but he does man cover well if he doesn't have to cover for 20 seconds while the D Line plays paddycake. He bites on the double move too much.
dude, are we watching the same thing? i definitely do not want pacman here. but, jones is 3 tmes the player rogers is.

That Guy
03-08-2007, 05:46 AM
dude, are we watching the same thing? i definitely do not want pacman here. but, jones is 3 tmes the player rogers is.

yeah, jones off field stuff is the kind that gets you out of the league, but on field, he can really play, and he's a good return guy too.

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