GTripp0012
04-12-2007, 05:53 PM
Harrington sucks. But Michael Vick gets no respect. Has the guy ever had a top notch WR?Well, his team drafted two of em in the first round and they can't do anything because they never get the ball.
Most guys on the waiver wire throw the ball better than Vick. You just can't judge Vick without considering the value of a QB who can pick up 1000 yards with his legs, because thats really the only reason you keep a guy like him around.
Harringtons a better passer than Vick, but I'd much rather have Vick on my team because hes a better player overall.
Neither is a top 32 QB in this league, IMO.
GTripp0012
04-12-2007, 05:57 PM
not to high on joey, you can see the scared in his eyes at the line before the snap. falcons FO is in my opinion, in a lot of hot water this year, they have tried and failed to be able to find the right pieces to complimet vick and actually make some noise .. . maybe there is no missing piece or one player that can make vick a consistent winnerYou can try to improve the OL to help Vick, but he's still going to run himself into a fair share of sacks.
Atlanta is doing this completely wrong. They should understand the fact that no matter what they bring in by way of receiving talent, Vick's inabilities are going to limit their effectiveness. They should be pouring resources into the defense and allowing Vick's atleticism to get that defense a lead.
It's kinda late now because Vick's pretty much at his apex as far as passing goes. He's going to lose his edge as age begins to sap his elusiveness and it's going to happen quick. Atlanta doesn't have enough time to build a dominate D through the draft.
skinsfan69
04-12-2007, 06:28 PM
Well, his team drafted two of em in the first round and they can't do anything because they never get the ball.
Most guys on the waiver wire throw the ball better than Vick. You just can't judge Vick without considering the value of a QB who can pick up 1000 yards with his legs, because thats really the only reason you keep a guy like him around.
Harringtons a better passer than Vick, but I'd much rather have Vick on my team because hes a better player overall.
Neither is a top 32 QB in this league, IMO.
Wrong. They get the ball. The problem is they can't catch it. No team's starting wr's dropped more passes than Atl. Just cause your a high draft pick does not mean you can play. We as Redskins fans know this very well. Does anyone remember Desmond Howard, Michael Westbrook, Rod Gardner and Taylor Jacobs?
To say waiver wire guys throw better than Michael Vick is simply ridicules. Dude has a great quick release, has a very strong arm and throws a nice tight spiral. He's a great thrower, but he is not a great passer yet. But the only true target the guy has is Crumpler. He has never had a top notch wr and it shows. He has no confidence in his current wr's. It will be interesting to see how the new staff handles him.
rvd420
04-12-2007, 06:30 PM
who cares harrington is just as lame as vick.i think carr got screwed by the texans,cause shaub isnt gonna do any better till they get an o line thats worth a damn.
GTripp0012
04-12-2007, 06:58 PM
Wrong. They get the ball. The problem is they can't catch it. No team's starting wr's dropped more passes than Atl. Just cause your a high draft pick does not mean you can play. We as Redskins fans know this very well. Does anyone remember Desmond Howard, Michael Westbrook, Rod Gardner and Taylor Jacobs?
To say waiver wire guys throw better than Michael Vick is simply ridicules. Dude has a great quick release, has a very strong arm and throws a nice tight spiral. He's a great thrower, but he is not a great passer yet. But the only true target the guy has is Crumpler. He has never had a top notch wr and it shows. He has no confidence in his current wr's. It will be interesting to see how the new staff handles him.That's a well debated first paragraph. I condede that point. Roddy White and Michael Jenkins probaly won't be much in this league no matter where they go.
I hold my position on the fact that the worst thing the Falcons can do is to try to bring in receivers to improve their passing offense. Vick completes such a low percentage (and yes some of that is drops--no more than 1-2% though because all receivers drop passes sometimes) But it's not rediculous at all to say that waiver wire guys pass better than Vick. The guy's never even come remotely close to putting up an average season throwing a football. You can't blame that on receivers. He reminds me of a guy making his first pro start every time he plays. He's got great athleticism, and gives his team a lot of points with his legs, but I'm guessing no more then he takes away with his inaccurate passes and questionable decision-making.
KLHJ2
04-13-2007, 01:05 AM
The truth is as long as Vick is the Quarterback, there are 5 words you will never hear from an announcer at a Falcons game. "And the pass is caught!"
djnemo65
04-13-2007, 01:14 AM
Petrino is now the third man helming the make Vick a pocket passer project. Hope it goes better for him than the other guys (actually I dont care).
KLHJ2
04-13-2007, 01:20 AM
Lived in Augusta for a couple of years, even worked security for a couple of Falcons preseason games the season before last. Am a huge Virginia Tech fan. Would love to see Vick do better as a passer. But I am not convinced he can. Other than that I really don't care.
SmootSmack
04-13-2007, 01:21 AM
Let's see if having Horn helps him
KLHJ2
04-13-2007, 01:24 AM
Let's see if having Horn helps him
Ok, but what do we do until then?