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SmootSmack 04-18-2007, 11:19 AM There are some people who will always think it's still 2000 and that if only we had someone with the title General Manager making decisions it would be all ok. When some other team doesn't re-sign a player or shells out big money for a free agent it's ok so long as a "General Manager" was behind it. When the Redskins do the EXACT SAME THING, it's the beginning of the apocalypse.
It is what it is. I hope Snyder leaves as well, and we get some multimillionaire who sits on his ass and doesn't try (rightly or wrongly) to push the envelope and find ways to improve the team. I would love an apathetic owner who maybe names his son General Manager. Then maybe everyone will be thrilled
ArtMonkDrillz 04-18-2007, 11:35 AM All things considered (team record, total cost of going to games, decision making, dealing away countless draft picks, etc) I had to give ole Johnny Rocket a big fat D.
memphisskin 04-18-2007, 11:41 AM No matter what his faults or strengths, the guy's heart is in the right place. But his hands are too far in his fan bases pockets, and he looked me (well the camera) right in the eye at the Marty Schottenheimer press conference and said this was his stamp on the Skins. And then he fires Marty after one year to go get Spurrier. Sometimes I think he's smart enough to figure this out, but there are moments, like the $10 million Tom Cruise development deal, that cause me to question his sanity.
Up til he brought Gibbs back he was a definite F-, especially considering the playoff drought since he "put his stamp on the Skins." But his overall tenure has produced a whopping 2 playoff wins now. D-, but a real high D-, a 61.
memphisskin 04-18-2007, 11:53 AM :doh:
Here we go with the GM talk again. If you rate Snyder an F, what do you rate Joe Gibbs?
As a coach, D. Poor time management skills, awful challenges, almost no player development, and a philosophy that has changed every year (which might be from the owner's influence).
As president, D-. Free agency to build a team does spend the Danny's money, but it has resulted in a fractured locker room with no discernible leadership and no accountability on the field because everyone has been rewarded for deeds done elsewhere. At least Bobby Beathard traded his first round picks for more picks. Make it an F+, but rising.
Longtimefan 04-18-2007, 12:21 PM I'm going to give Mr. Snyder a-C-because I believe his intentions are good coupled with a burning desire to "WIN". His sense of direction for the teams future seems at times somewhat misguided, but after he's in the business long enough to figure out the right way, he'll eventually reap the benefits of his efforts.
12thMan 04-18-2007, 12:51 PM As a coach, D. Poor time management skills, awful challenges, almost no player development, and a philosophy that has changed every year (which might be from the owner's influence).
As president, D-. Free agency to build a team does spend the Danny's money, but it has resulted in a fractured locker room with no discernible leadership and no accountability on the field because everyone has been rewarded for deeds done elsewhere. At least Bobby Beathard traded his first round picks for more picks. Make it an F+, but rising.
Gibbs definitely gets a D in my book. But don't we currently have, what, ten threads on this timely debate?
#56fanatic 04-18-2007, 12:59 PM grade Mr Snyder...
I give the man an A+ for trying to put a winning team on the field and turning this franchise into the richest in sports.
I have to give him a C in how he is attempting to do so. He has moved up from an F to a C the past few years. Giving Joe the power has worked to an certain extent. But, I think he may have given Joe and the coaches a little too much authority on player personel. But, looking at the other option, Dan and Vinny, I guess I would take Joe and Co. picking the players.
Beemnseven 04-18-2007, 01:07 PM The grades are a bit higher than I expected from many people here.
They seem to be adjusted upward for his "good intentions".
Would George W. Bush get a higher grade because his 'heart was in the right place'? Or don't you ultimately have to judge the final results?
redskins159 04-18-2007, 01:08 PM This is a topic that redskin fans cant be overly optimistic about just because Snyder owns the team. For every good move that has been made during his ownership their has been three or four terrible moves. Drafting Samuels, Taylor, Cooley were all good moves. Trading up to get mccintosh, trading draft picks to denver for Campbell are stiil yet to be determined. The free agent signings have been ridiculous. Snyders first year we went out and got every over the hill veteren we could find, deion sanders, bruce smith, jeff george all bad moves. We also grossly overpaid for Archuleta, Carter, Jeremiah Trotter,and countless others. Marcus Washington and Randy Thomas are basically the only really good additions to the team VIA free agency. The rest have been overpriced marginal players. More importantly most of our free agent signings are not with the team after three years. We traded picks away for nothing, the duckett deal and trading for Brandon Llyod. We shouldnt be so quick to deal our picks and overpay in freeagency. Overall I give Snyder at best a D+. This team needs an identity and direction.
skinsfan69 04-18-2007, 01:08 PM Alright, the local sports station has a poll asking what grade Dan Snyder deserves since taking over in July 1999.
Objectively speaking (if that's possible) what grade would you give Snyder as an owner? I guess you have to consider overall success, playoff appearances, win-loss record, general direction of the team for the future, that sort of thing.
Here's the link -- it's on the left-hand side, third question down.
ESPNRadio1310 (http://www.espnradio1310.com)
From an 'A' to 'F', what grade does Dan Snyder get?
You forgot to put in F-. If you put that in I would cast my vote as F-.
He is the one of the worst owners in sports. Who cares if he wants to win. The question is does he know how to win?
1. How do you fire Norv with a 7-6 record? Fire the guy after the season, not during. AWFUL!
2. 2000 speding spree was a complete joke.
3. Ran off Brad Johnson for Jeff George. AWFUL!
4. Fired Marty after he had the team on the right track. AWFUL!
5. Hired OBC who was a joke of an NFL coach. Why wouldn't you hire Marvin Lewis? Complete stupidity.
6. Charging fans for training camp. Would JKC ever do this? Hell no.
7. Not bringing in a GM. If Danny Boi really wanted to win as badly as we all know he does then he would bring in someone who knows how to do it. Why is Floyd Reese still working for ESPN? Who cares if it pisses off Gibbs. Too bad.
8. Why does he keep Vinny around? No reason to do so. WTF has Vinny done since he has been here? Oh yeah. He brought in Trung Canidate and let go of Steven Davis. Simply pathetic.
There is so much more but no need to even bring it up. He sucks as an owner. Period.
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