holcknowsbest
04-19-2007, 11:20 PM
i think the scouting report you copied was the same one from 2004 when Sean Taylor came out. someone is always the next Lott, Reed, etc. a great secondary looks rather ordinary with no defensive line
and vice versa.....remeber when we had ryan clarke how good our dline looked then....i think we were 3 and 9 in defenses with a lesser line than we have right now.
djnemo65
04-19-2007, 11:22 PM
From a cap perspective, I'm still not sold on investing that much money in two safeties. Seems like for all the elite safeties you mentioned - Polamalu, Reed, Dawkins - those teams have been able to get by complimenting them with lesser players. Even Taylor was at his most effective playing with Ryan Clark.
You need one athletic safety in the NFL today to cover tight ends and blitz while still being able to drop back in coverage, but do you really need two? Especially when your team has major needs up front? It'd be nice, but is it really a luxury we can afford at this point?
As for picking a Dlineman, yeah its no guarantee. Dline has the highest bust factor of any position. But does that mean we should never draft a dlineman in the first round again? At some point we are going to have to try and bring in someone who can make plays up there. Otherwise we are going to see a lot of the same problems next season.
holcknowsbest
04-19-2007, 11:24 PM
i have been saying landry all the way back since i saw his combine numbers. i put those together with what i saw on the field and this guy is a flat out stud! plus hes put on 15 pounds over his listed weight of 203 at the beginning of the college season....this guy played corner as a freshman in similar attacking scheme at lsu, he understands coverage as much as anyone that we have right now.....hes a sure thing folks.....ut oh here come all the guys with "nothing is a sure thing"
SmootSmack
04-19-2007, 11:25 PM
Well they may have found a diamond in the rough in Golston, but I don't think he's enough. If we could trade down and get a D-lineman and then someone like maybe Michael Griffin, that'd be cool
EARTHQUAKE2689
04-19-2007, 11:27 PM
Well they may have found a diamond in the rough in Golston, but I don't think he's enough. If we could trade down and get a D-lineman and then someone like maybe Michael Griffin, that'd be cool
it would but i like landry too much i want him lsu fan go tigers man they might suck next year
BrudLee
04-19-2007, 11:29 PM
And instead of a draft cap, we can give him this...
http://www.pennersinc.com/stores/penners/catalog/716x%20Charcoal%20Straw.jpg
GhettoDogAllStars
04-19-2007, 11:50 PM
How will another safety help stop the run? We were giving up ridiculous rushing yardage last year.
SmootSmack
04-20-2007, 12:11 AM
How will another safety help stop the run? We were giving up ridiculous rushing yardage last year.
I think the idea is that it's similar to a "coverage sack" The defensive line just needs the secondary to hold the receivers a little bit longer
GTripp0012
04-20-2007, 12:12 AM
Good post Ten and Six, but to answer your question, I would NOT trade the 6th pick for Reed/Polamalu. I would be confident in my ability to pick a dominant player on the DL, and I would make my selection without hesitation.
GTripp0012
04-20-2007, 12:18 AM
Could you and like-minded people like you wait a year for that DL help? I realize adding LL doesn't mean SB next year. But can you ponder him and ST roaming the middle of the field once we do get a DL? Just because our DL sucks next year doesn't mean they have to suck forever. Adding one DL to this team gives us decent DL, decent LB's, and decent secondary. That sounds pretty pedestrian to me if we're getting all "win now" about it. It is a virtual guarantee that LL shores us up in the secondary big time for the foreseeable future. Next years packages would be designed around what could potentially be an elite secondary. If you really look back to last year and ask Gregg Williams what hurt us more, DL or secondary, what do you think he would say? I think you might be surprised that he would tell you this unequivocally: Secondary. Go ahead, ask him. Kinda hard to stuff the run with five guys in the box.The reason we can't wait any longer for DL help is that we should have addressed the DL in 2004. That was 4 drafts ago. It was overdue in 2005, and way overdue last year.
If we pass on DL help now that it, for all intents and purposes, is already too late as is, what's to keep us from passing on it again next year when another good DB prospect comes out? At what point do you just decide to get the defense on the road to recovery and stop looking at DBs? Is there any guarentee theres going to be a DL prospect better than Okoye next year?
I think GW may very well be forced to scheme around the strength of his secondary next year...but only because we haven't addressed the DL early in the last 3 drafts. He really doesn't have a choice.
Time to stop the bleeding.