Wacks the political Bee's Nest

yup, and then he ACTED on that disregard for the truth. thats the difference. cant believe you're comfortable with that.
who said i was? you? man, please stop thinking for me...

and if you think he blatantly disregarded facts, you realize that nearly all of congress agreed that iraq was a threat, they maybe didn't have the facts, cause our intel isn't used to dealing with arab threats and we don't have the networks like we did with the soviets..

its nice that hindsight is 20/20, now to work on that foresight...

you insinuated that bush was acting alone, and then when it was brought up that people supported his position, you ignored it... all i've been saying, is many many people thought he was dangerous... that's it... i don't where this other crap came from.

another quick side note is that, saddam had been found guilty of possessing WMD, and it was up to him to prove they were gone. whether you think we should have gone to war is seperate from whether he was thought of as a threat. but, since you obviously do think it was wrong, just remember, bush was not in any way alone is deciding to invade, kerry was there with him, among many others. If you disagree with the decision, the blame belongs to much more than bush alone.

well man its gotten pretty chaotic. but i dont think anyone ever argued that Bush sucks because he thought Saddam was dangerous. he sucks because he didnt bother to see that he wasn't dangerous ENOUGH (not even a fraction of how dangerous osama is) to brazenly commit our lives, our money and our friends to this war. he IS the commander and chief, and the public, the congress and the soldiers SHOULD be able to trust him.

and saddam had plenty of time to send the good stuff to iran or bury it in the sand (good luck finding that)... but it is strange that you'd argue bush sucks cause he wanted saddam out, but not clinton or kerry or hillary, who (at the time) also thought he was worth going after...

My first post was just saying that many other people thought he was a threat and he's not the only culprit in the invasion, thats all, but i guess my intentions were misunderstood.

as far as personal opinions, I don't usually get into those unless asked, cause its pretty pointless. I really don't care what anyone believes, I just rather opinions not be based on flawed reasoning.

well man its gotten pretty chaotic. but i dont think anyone ever argued that Bush sucks because he thought Saddam was dangerous. he sucks because he didnt bother to see that he wasn't dangerous ENOUGH (not even a fraction of how dangerous osama is) to brazenly commit our lives, our money and our friends to this war. he IS the commander and chief, and the public, the congress and the soldiers SHOULD be able to trust him.


And Bin Laden wasen't a danger before 9/11, infact if you made the accusation before 9/11, that Bin Laden was more dangerous then Sadam, you would be laughed out of the conversation, the fact is, Sadam has killed and tortured more people, than Bin Laden could ever dream of doing, Sadam also showed the world, that he had no problem using WOMD on Iran, as well as his own people, this is a dictator that will stop at nothing to obtain more power, regardless of the mean's in which to obtain that goal, Sadam has far greater resourses than Bin Laden, who ever want's to believe this man was not a real threat to all american's, not just dem's, or rep., I am not going to convince you other wise, 9/11 didn't just kill many innocent people, it ushered in a hole new era in this world, and it has to be dealt with, unfortuntly it is being dealt with in a different manner than we have in the past, and I don't believe many people can accept it, so be it, I for one am glad that our President has seen fit to take all this critisism, and still do what is right to keep us safe, and I mean all of us, it allow's us to have these discussion's, and voice our belief's, regardless of what they may be, voting is no longer about economic philosphical differences, it can be a vote for your life, especially those of us who live in or around new york, as well as D.C. Would I like a perfect president? Absolutly! But we all no he doesn't exist, I do think President Bush has done a pretty good job considering the circumstances. peace out!

al-qaeda bombed the WTC already once before. and the uss cole. intelligence knew of the plans to use planes against us before 9/11 as well. bin laden's al-qaeda had already attacked US. not iran, not his own people. US.

saddam neither had the means (WMD) the history (prior attacks) nor the intent (plans) to attack the US, although im sure he hated us. he had already been dealt with.

Ramzi Yousef and Abdul Rahmin (I think that was his name) were the "masterminds" behind the 1993 WTC bombing. Both were definitely given sanctuary in Iraq after the bombings and Yousef at least was reportedly an Iraqi intelligence agent.

al-qaeda bombed the WTC already once before. and the uss cole. intelligence knew of the plans to use planes against us before 9/11 as well. bin laden's al-qaeda had already attacked US. not iran, not his own people. US.

saddam neither had the means (WMD) the history (prior attacks) nor the intent (plans) to attack the US, although im sure he hated us. he had already been dealt with.

what about the reports that came from russian intel that saddam had begun making plans for attacks on US civilians and troops both in the US and internationally shortly after 9-11?
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20040618_1258.html
and that saddam in the monthes right before we invaded iraq and forced saddam's regime out of power, Saddam had been in negotiations with North Korea not only for missiles, but the rights to North Korea's entire production line.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/01/international/middleeast/01MISS.html?ex=1090728000&en=bae1da5488e8487f&ei=5070

has Bush been perfect in his tenure thus far? no, but he's done a pretty good job given the circumstances of what has happened to our country over the last 4 years. and I'd rather keep a person in office I know isn't going to wilt under pressure both internally and from the masses.

those ar old links, the russian intelligence was later proven wrong. as was our own. Bush wont even take accountability for our shoddy intelligence nor acting based on it.

korea is a real threat, waving missiles in our faces and our enemies. if Bush is so 'tough' and 'decisive' why isn't this a bigger issue? probably because not all conflicts are solved by invading. and iraq wasn't even a conflict.