Sean Taylors play

-Adam Archuleta (while in STL) allowed only 5 yards per play on plays he was involved in--a wonderful year for a safety.

As you can see, these numbers don't always stay consistent from year to year. One year's data is never conclusive. It will get more accurate with time though.

That specific example shows how subjective those statistics are. Archuleta is traditionally a safety that plays close to the line for run support, so obviously his yards per play are going to be far lower than Ed Reed's, who generally floats around 10-15 yards off the line. And I imagine that plays where Archuleta was completely out of position or whiffed on a tackle aren't included as plays he was involved in, as far as that particular stat.

That specific example shows how subjective those statistics are. Archuleta is traditionally a safety that plays close to the line for run support, so obviously his yards per play are going to be far lower than Ed Reed, who generally floats around, 10-15 yards off the line. And I'd imagine that plays where Archuleta was completely out of position or whiffed on a tackle aren't included as plays he was involved in, as far as that particular stat.Well, they certainly would be considered in plays he was involved in.

But I would agree that Arch's numbers are probably skewed a tad by a tendency to attack the LOS. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. I mean, no safety, Archuleta or otherwise, will line up in the box frequently enough to completely alter a seasons data. Just remember that these plays include passes, so he apparently was back more than enough times to stop most deep passes.

Now, if Arch was being used uniquely compared to every other safety in the NFL, then these stats would have little meaning for him.

While the 5 yard number is a big subjective, the point is that the data supports the notion that Arch was great in 2005, and does justify his signing here.

Sometimes, you get boned.

I dont know guys, I mean we have been talking about this stuff all last season and honestly I am kinda optimistic about next year.

Our D seems better. Have a similar core, plus few additions. GW seems to know he needs to tweak his great system or whatever. Even if DL isnt addressed I think we have a good chance of doing well.

Same offensive coordinator, more run. Remember end of last year, things were kinda gelling. JC's 2nd year and times for everyone to learn the system.I mean this is the first time in a while the offense has stayed the same. It pretty much stayed the same in 05 and look what happened. And honestly, our D cant get much worst.

I dont know guys, I mean we have been talking about this stuff all last season and honestly I am kinda optimistic about next year.

Our D seems better. Have a similar core, plus few additions. GW seems to know he needs to tweak his great system or whatever. Even if DL isnt addressed I think we have a good chance of doing well.

Same offensive coordinator, more run. Remember end of last year, things were kinda gelling. JC's 2nd year and times for everyone to learn the system.I mean this is the first time in a while the offense has stayed the same. It pretty much stayed the same in 05 and look what happened. And honestly, our D cant get much worst.

I tend to be kind of pessemistic, but I'm going to agree with you here. There are times when this we just suffer from paralysis by analysis (to use a horrible cliche). Are we really trashing Sean Taylor? He has problems getting out of position and trying to do too much, but I'd rather have him than most any other saftey in the league and I'm definitely not going to bash him here.

I tend to be kind of pessemistic, but I'm going to agree with you here. There are times when this we just suffer from paralysis by analysis (to use a horrible cliche). Are we really trashing Sean Taylor? He has problems getting out of position and trying to do too much, but I'd rather have him than most any other saftey in the league and I'm definitely not going to bash him here.

Well I am pessimistic too, that is why I am surprised this year. I just thought about stuff for a bit, and I was optimisticf for once.

I dont know guys, I mean we have been talking about this stuff all last season and honestly I am kinda optimistic about next year.


Me too.

Our secondary will be much better with a healthy Springs along with Rogers and Smoot at CB, there is depth where there wasn't last year. Saftey should be a big plus aswell, Taylor will only get better, the guy is a phyiscal freak and that enables him to make plays that other guys just can't. From all reports Landry has alot of potential.

LB's look good to, Fletcher, is a tough veteran MLB, he knows the system and should make a difference right away. Washington back at full health is a beast and Marhsall back outside with McIntosh, should be good!

The line is the issue and i like many others here feel that we need to add something on the d-line. I like Griff and Golston, with other DT's rotating. And remembering the strides that Carter made at the end of last season, after a painful re-adjustment period, gives me some hope that he could be our pass rush guy. Meaning that all Daniels/Wynn will need to do consitently is clog the line, stuff the run. If they can do this i'm sure the line will produce more pressure and sacks.

Same offensive coordinator, more run. Remember end of last year, things were kinda gelling. JC's 2nd year and times for everyone to learn the system.I mean this is the first time in a while the offense has stayed the same.

The offence should be great this year, not good, but great!

I really don't foresee any big changes in performance attributable to our personnel. Our secondary can't be considered greatly improved just by the addition of Fred Smoot (horrible last year in Minn) and LaRon Landry (keep in mind, a rookie).

I do think London Fletcher will help the defense overall with his QB skills in the middle. But more so, I expect improvement just because of better scheming by GW. He's got a few more tools at his disposal, but I expect him to learn a lot from last year and come up with something great for this season.

GW is the guy our D is really riding on. Just like JC is the guy our offense is really riding on. We can make this game really complicated if we want, but honestly, it's going to come down to those two guys: GW and JC.

I really don't foresee any big changes in performance attributable to our personnel. Our secondary can't be considered greatly improved just by the addition of Fred Smoot (horrible last year in Minn) and LaRon Landry (keep in mind, a rookie).

I do think London Fletcher will help the defense overall with his QB skills in the middle. But more so, I expect improvement just because of better scheming by GW. He's got a few more tools at his disposal, but I expect him to learn a lot from last year and come up with something great for this season.

GW is the guy our D is really riding on. Just like JC is the guy our offense is really riding on. We can make this game really complicated if we want, but honestly, it's going to come down to those two guys: GW and JC.


I think we can close this thread now. It's all about JC and GW.

I've contended all along that 'everything' rides on GW and his ability to coach 'around' deficiencies and cater to his strengths.

Pro-bowls have little use in determining akill...its a popularity contest.

Which is is exactly why he was an alternate, he is not that popular among players, but even they cannot deny his abilities.

Of course Sean Taylor regressed given the situation with the safeties and the lack of coordination in the secondary.

I hope that the safeties and corners meet in one room, at the same time this year. Led by one person.