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saden1
05-31-2007, 04:23 PM
The right always says "..they hate our freedoms, that's why they want to kill us" yet when it comes to issues like abortion or issues they don't agree with freedom is metaphiscal nonsense.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
05-31-2007, 04:27 PM
The right always says "..they hate our freedoms, that's why they want to kill us" yet when it comes to issues like abortion or issues they don't agree with freedom is metaphiscal nonsense.

Agreed. But, I do actually think that Bin Laden-types, as opposed to your run-of-the-mill Iraqi insurgents, hate America for its "freedoms." Bin Laden and others of his ilk do despise our promiscuity, indulgence in drink and drugs, freedom of religion, separation of church and state, etc.

Schneed10
05-31-2007, 04:49 PM
The right always says "..they hate our freedoms, that's why they want to kill us" yet when it comes to issues like abortion or issues they don't agree with freedom is metaphiscal nonsense.

Yeah but the main reason the right is so appalled by abortion is because it's giving people the freedom to choose to deny someone a life.

It's a little different than freedom of speech, freedom to practice religion, etc.

It's not the fact that abortion is a freedom that bothers the right, it's the fact that they feel it's killing someone. And I tend to agree. Wouldn't it be some bullshit if your mom decided she would rather just not have you, and you were never here?

70Chip
05-31-2007, 04:50 PM
My problem with abortion is overpopulation is already a huge problem in not only this country but around the globe. I often see someone staunchly against abortion, but also tells someone to stop having kids and get off welfare. The two go hand in hand. Sometimes accidents happen, and I'm not suggesting abortion be used as some sort of birth control, but we need to find a way to start cutting population around the globe. The rate at which we're using natural resources is alarming.

Global warming could help here. The problem kind of solves itself if you think about it. Humans cause warming, warming kills humans. It's the circle of life da, da, da, da, da, da.

Schneed10
05-31-2007, 04:51 PM
And if you don't want to have a baby, or don't feel you are ready for the responsibility, there are tons of American families out there who can't biologically have children and would love to adopt your child. Why can't you just suck it up, give birth to the baby, and give it up for adoption?

Schneed10
05-31-2007, 04:55 PM
People love to ask the question "what gives the government the right to tell women what to do with their body?"

What about the other question? What gives the woman the right to deny that person an opportunity at life; an opportunity to grow up happy, healthy, and free?

saden1
05-31-2007, 05:17 PM
Yeah but the main reason the right is so appalled by abortion is because it's giving people the freedom to choose to deny someone a life.

It's a little different than freedom of speech, freedom to practice religion, etc.

It's not the fact that abortion is a freedom that bothers the right, it's the fact that they feel it's killing someone. And I tend to agree. Wouldn't it be some bullshit if your mom decided she would rather just not have you, and you were never here?

The right also defines a fertilized egg as a child (the moment of conception). The real issue here is that the right is interjecting their religious beliefs to limit my freedom.

As for my mother not aborting me, well, she had a miscarriage prior to having. I could have easily been that embryo but I wasn't. What matters is that I am here, and those that aren't here aren't. I mean, who left the right in change of making sure every embryo makes it through 9 months of gestation?

p.s. I'm actually pretty conservative when it comes to abortion. Liberty and freedom, however, come before my own personal views on the issue.

saden1
05-31-2007, 05:22 PM
People love to ask the question "what gives the government the right to tell women what to do with their body?"

What about the other question? What gives the woman the right to deny that person an opportunity at life; an opportunity to grow up happy, healthy, and free?

Just look around and see if you can find happy children in the foster care system. The world is brutal man.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
05-31-2007, 07:07 PM
Just look around and see if you can find happy children in the foster care system. The world is brutal man.

I'm looking into adopting a child and I'm open to adopting a kid of any race, but baby white kids are in pretty high demand.

hooskins
05-31-2007, 07:09 PM
I'm looking into adopting a child and I'm open to adopting a kid of any race, but baby white kids are in pretty high demand.

haha, ok but I thought that post was hilarious.

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