Joyner: Cooley underrated

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you say Cooley was replaceable?

I'm assuming replaceable by another top three (top two for me) TE in the league? Also, remember that the Browns had NO receivers to speak of.

It's not Cooley, it how he is used. He is definitely not easily replaceable.

Anyone is nuts not to think Cooley is one of the best TE's in the league. I always get him as my starting fantasy TE every year since year 2 of his being a Skin. Everyone here playing fantasy this year should pick him up as well!!!! With JC bound to improve, along with our Wr corp, I look for things to open up more for Cooley and he will get more scores and yardage. Only TE's arguably better than Chris are Gates and Gonzalez, but our O is more potent than both SD and KC.

It's not Cooley, it how he is used. He is definitely not easily replaceable.

He just said what I'm thinking.. Yes, some of you guys are right.. In general, TE players may be easy to replace, but not Cooley.. He is all-round player, hell, we even won some games because of him..

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you say Cooley was replaceable?

Yes I did. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and I think he can be a top 5 TE. But he's not Gates or Tony G. I mean Gates is clearly the best TE in football. If Cooley were to leave ( I hope like hell he doesn't) we could go out and get someone who could do what Cooley does, or draft someone who has comparable skills. You don't agree?

I'm assuming replaceable by another top three (top two for me) TE in the league? Also, remember that the Browns had NO receivers to speak of.

I agree that Clev. had no WR's but Winslow still had to get open to catch 90 balls. Very very impressive if you ask me.

Yes I did. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and I think he can be a top 5 TE. But he's not Gates or Tony G. I mean Gates is clearly the best TE in football. If Cooley were to leave ( I hope like hell he doesn't) we could go out and get someone who could do what Cooley does, or draft someone who has comparable skills. You don't agree?

I most definitely do not agree. It's rare to find someone with such a combination of hands, blocking and running abilities. You're citing Gates as the best TE in football right now, but I'd have to differ in the fact that when you have the offense they do, it's easy to look good. While I think that Gates is top three, I think Gonzo is the best.

I'm also not taking anything away from Winslow, but if you're asking me who I'll take ANY Sunday between Cooley and Winslow, give me Cooley each and every day.

I can't even remember the best tight end prospect last year, but can you think of ANY TE that really tore up the league last year? If he was so easily replaceable, you'd think that SOMEONE drafted would even come close to duplicating his stats and I don't think that anyone did.

I most definitely do not agree. It's rare to find someone with such a combination of hands, blocking and running abilities. You're citing Gates as the best TE in football right now, but I'd have to differ in the fact that when you have the offense they do, it's easy to look good. While I think that Gates is top three, I think Gonzo is the best.

I'm also not taking anything away from Winslow, but if you're asking me who I'll take ANY Sunday between Cooley and Winslow, give me Cooley each and every day.

I can't even remember the best tight end prospect last year, but can you think of ANY TE that really tore up the league last year? If he was so easily replaceable, you'd think that SOMEONE drafted would even come close to duplicating his stats and I don't think that anyone did.

Cooley would not be easily replaceable. But it's not like we couldn't find someone who could catch 60-70 balls and 5-7 TD's. I think we as Redskins fans tend to think that our players are the best becasue they play for The Redskins, and we get attached to them. Ask yourself this question. If Cooley played for Dallas would you still feel the same way about him?

That is my point on TE's. No one really tore it up. Winslow had 90 catches but only scored like 2-3 times and didn't crack 1,000 yards. It's not a position where you need to make a huge investment.

Cooley would not be easily replaceable. But it's not like we couldn't find someone who could catch 60-70 balls and 5-7 TD's. I think we as Redskins fans tend to think that our players are the best becasue they play for The Redskins, and we get attached to them. Ask yourself this question. If Cooley played for Dallas would you still feel the same way about him?

That is my point on TE's. No one really tore it up. Winslow had 90 catches but only scored like 2-3 times and didn't crack 1,000 yards. It's not a position where you need to make a huge investment.


Okay now you are on crack ...

One of my favorite Cowboys players has to be Witten.. he is a chain mover as is Cooley . I actually don't rate Gates that much, he is amongst the best in the leauge but he is esentially a converted basket ball player with limited moves, speed and has questionable blocking skills . What SD do well with him is ask him to go out there and esentially go for the jump balls .

You have the great TE's in history like Mike Ditka etc but they are often overlooked . In the Dallas reign of terror 92-96 I think the most valuble offensive players they had were in order, Aikmen, Smith, Novacheck, Allen, Irvin .

When I think of great TEs right now i like Ben Watson in NE, Dallas Clark as fantasy stud last year on my team, Jason Witten, Chris Cooley, Tony G - but only as a pass catcher, he is not the best blocker in the world, Vernon Davis - was ripping it up before his injury, and Kelen Winslow .

I also think the eara of the great TE is still to come but if you have a top flight all round skills like Cooley you do not let him walk because you simply cannot go out and replace them. It is a undervalued possition in the collages and NFL, often spare tackles who can catch get stuck on the end as a TE.