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Wouldn't it be something if Montgomery and Golston were both starting around mid-season.
Really!
I really like what I am reading about these guys. Actually, I really like what the Skins have done.........or not done in the off-season
skinsfan69 06-22-2007, 11:21 AM yeah, don't forget about AC. IF all we need him to do is pass rush, he'll get his sacks. He's a natural rusher, he's just not much in the run.
And that's exactly what scares me cause he can't hold up on run downs. Perhaps 50 year old Wynn can spell him some.
If they're both starting that would probably mean Griffin is hurt, and I don't like the sound of that. One of the big keys to our defense is Griffin staying healthy and playing at a high level.
freddyg12 06-22-2007, 12:43 PM If they're both starting that would probably mean Griffin is hurt, and I don't like the sound of that. One of the big keys to our defense is Griffin staying healthy and playing at a high level.
true, would be nice if Montgomery beat griff out to start w/griff coming in on passing downs. I read that Montgomery runs a 5.24 40, which sounds like he's not likely to be a pass rusher as much as a run stuffer. 40 times only count for so much though, he might have a great burst now that he's toning up. It's a position where quickness is more important than speed anyway.
Schneed10 06-22-2007, 01:13 PM true, would be nice if Montgomery beat griff out to start w/griff coming in on passing downs. I read that Montgomery runs a 5.24 40, which sounds like he's not likely to be a pass rusher as much as a run stuffer. 40 times only count for so much though, he might have a great burst now that he's toning up. It's a position where quickness is more important than speed anyway.
40 times mean diddily squat for a DT. The 40 time measures straight away speed. The DT needs explosion and burst, as you alluded to. It's more about his lower body strength, how quickly can he get off the line.
If you were going to measure something, take a look at how much weight he can squat, and how much he can "clean." That's when you hold the barbell in both hands down at about your knees and jerk it up to the point where you're holding at your shoulders in preparation to lift it over your head.
freddyg12 06-22-2007, 02:27 PM 40 times mean diddily squat for a DT. The 40 time measures straight away speed. The DT needs explosion and burst, as you alluded to. It's more about his lower body strength, how quickly can he get off the line.
If you were going to measure something, take a look at how much weight he can squat, and how much he can "clean." That's when you hold the barbell in both hands down at about your knees and jerk it up to the point where you're holding at your shoulders in preparation to lift it over your head.
right, quickness as I mentioned & strength is an assumed must have in any lineman. I don't put TOO much emphasis on 40 times, but I think if you look at the game's best pass rushers, dt, de or lb's, I bet that on avg. they have faster 40 times.
Doesn't matter to me though, I think if he contributes as a run stuffer & gets some pt, that's a bonus. If he's an every down dt, that's a draft steal. I hope that his offseason has been like Loyd's, & his training will show on game days. Expect to see a lot of snaps in preseason for sure.
dmek25 06-22-2007, 02:28 PM i have read the same thing about Montgomery. lacks intensity at times. and right now doesn't understand what it takes to be a good pro, the film work and the aggressive practicing
skins009 06-22-2007, 02:55 PM I hope everyone doesn't get their hopes up that Montgomery is the next Stroud because this is complete crap. This story is a result of a newspaper struggling for stores in the lol before training camp. This guy has done nothing so far to lead you to believe he will have any kind of significant contribution this year.
I hope everyone doesn't get their hopes up that Montgomery is the next Stroud because this is complete crap. This story is a result of a newspaper struggling for stores in the lol before training camp. This guy has done nothing so far to lead you to believe he will have any kind of significant contribution this year.
calm down cowboy, I don't think anybody is putting him in the Pro Bowl, but it is encouraging to hear that he seems to understand what he needs to do to improve.
EARTHQUAKE2689 06-22-2007, 03:16 PM During the draft preparation and free agent acquisition process, I was strongly in favor of upgrading our DT position because I saw how badly the line performed against the run last year. But reading the Washington Post today, I'm surprised to hear of how highly regarded Anthony Montgomery is in terms of raw talent. Reynaldo Wynn compares him to Marcus Stroud in terms of size, build, strength, and quickness.
Of all the things we talk about, needing players to step up and whatnot, of course JC is the main one. And it'd be real good to see Rocky fill in that LB spot admirably, and see Landry make an impact in the secondary, and see Springs stay healthy. But man, stopping the run is still our primary need on defense IMO. And if we get Montgomery to tap into his raw talent? Lights out fellas, we're going to the playoffs.
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If we can get Golston and Montgomery to play like Stroud and Henderson, forget the playoffs and Hello Arizona!!!!!http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon7.gif
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