hesscl34
06-22-2007, 03:16 PM
OK, are we all clear to start the puns now?
I hope that whatever settlement she gets out of this really gives her a leg up on life.
.... you really need some help. 800-GET-HELP
hesscl34
06-22-2007, 03:17 PM
This is an interesting question. Is it in bad taste to fool around about a subject like this when the aflicted we surely never read it? On one hand the reason it is considered in poor taste is because of the insensitivity towards the victim and how their feelings would be rightfully hurt. So by that logic, assuming they would never read it, it really isn't all the bad to do. On the other hand there is the thought that something like this should not be made fun of since it was random and could have happened to anyone and making jokes shows a more general insensitivity. Not sure which way I fall on that.
Why do people think it is bad to make jokes? Not a challenge but pure curiosity to help me settle my thoughts on it.
You read way too many books as a child.
JoeRedskin
06-22-2007, 03:18 PM
This is an interesting question. Is it in bad taste to fool around about a subject like this when the aflicted we surely never read it? On one hand the reason it is considered in poor taste is because of the insensitivity towards the victim and how their feelings would be rightfully hurt. So by that logic, assuming they would never read it, it really isn't all the bad to do. On the other hand there is the thought that something like this should not be made fun of since it was random and could have happened to anyone and making jokes shows a more general insensitivity. Not sure which way I fall on that.
Assume for the moment that the girl, her family, her friends, other children on the ride who witnessed the accident, their families or their friends (starts to add up doesn't it?) will NEVER read any of this. I would suggest that does not change the inherent cruelty of the remark: A disfiguring accident happened to an innocent person and someone else laughed at it. I don't have to look up the definition of "cruel" to believe that behavior falls within its parameters.
Why do people think it is bad to make jokes? Not a challenge but pure curiosity to help me settle my thoughts on it.
It is absolutely okay to make jokes appropriately. Humor can be great medicine in overcoming trauma. When offered by a victim, it is an excellent way of reassuring those concerned for the victim that they (the victim) are getting better (e.g. - some of SBF's comment about his leg). In this case, however, the humor was not created out of concern or kindess for the girl but, rather, as I said above, as a way to laugh at another's misfortune.
While I think that is some TASTELESS shit Schneed is spouting. I totally agree with the idea of turning the channel, if you can't hang with the format.
And YES, Americans have become ridiculously ......falsely, dramatic, and sensitive about EVERYTHING and totally lost the ability to laugh at themselves. I get sick of hearing so, and so disrepected somebody else. Stupid BS
IMO, an overly general statement but useful - While people may be overly sensitive and "politically correct", does that mean the opposite approach is perfectly acceptable? Shouldn't there be a middle ground? Don't some things merit respect, concern or gravity? The mere fact that the concept of being "sensitive" has been overplayed does not mean there are no things to which we should be sensitive.
One more thing, just to be clear, I thought Schneed's remarks were cruel. I am also absolutely certain that they were not offered with cruel intentions.
Sammy Baugh Fan
06-22-2007, 03:18 PM
I would not vote to ban him as if it were a vote thing. Times like this bring up quotes from my favorite guy to quote.
"Father forgive them for they know not what they do." - Jesus
Back to the girl.
She has an amazing and difficult time ahead. The next year will be incredible pain and work in healing. Her mind will at some point greave for her lost body parts. I hope and pray she has a great support group around her. I leaned on the Lord and my family.
My first reaction was that I would be back to "normal" in no time flat. It's been 10 years and my normal is wonderful in it's own way but NOTHING like normal was.
I put on a poker face for my family that was positive and ok. I guess I'm so stupid I actually believed it and it got me through.
Hang in there lil Sister!!!!
peace
firstdown
06-22-2007, 03:40 PM
I would not vote to ban him as if it were a vote thing. Times like this bring up quotes from my favorite guy to quote.
"Father forgive them for they know not what they do." - Jesus
Back to the girl.
She has an amazing and difficult time ahead. The next year will be incredible pain and work in healing. Her mind will at some point greave for her lost body parts. I hope and pray she has a great support group around her. I leaned on the Lord and my family.
My first reaction was that I would be back to "normal" in no time flat. It's been 10 years and my normal is wonderful in it's own way but NOTHING like normal was.
I put on a poker face for my family that was positive and ok. I guess I'm so stupid I actually believed it and it got me through.
Hang in there lil Sister!!!!
peaceWhen you went through this did they have people that had been through this there to help prepare you for what your recovery would be like? I know its something you can never fully recover from but it seems having someone who had been through it would be a big help. Hey, those ribs looked great. I wsih I could get mine to come out looking and tasting like yours.
Sammy Baugh Fan
06-22-2007, 03:53 PM
The first person who I felt knew where I was coming from was the guy that made my first leg. He had all his stuff but had a look of compassion that made me feel he knew what I was going through.
I didn't have another Amputee to help me but I think I have motivated a few and like I posted want to help them/me at Walter Reed withe BBQ thing.
Schneed10
06-22-2007, 03:58 PM
SBF I publicly and sincerely apologize, the situation regarding your leg slipped my mind, which is especially dumb because you mentioned it back in like the second post in this thread.
If I can explain, sometimes I feel like the Warpath gets a little dull in the offseason, and cracking some jokes can be a way to kick things up a notch.
But at the same time, the last thing I wanted to do was say something insensitive that would actually hurt you, or anyone, at a personal level. So lesson learned on my part - as has been said by others in this very thread - you never know who's reading.
The jokes were meant to be insensitive and edgy, because I dig that kind of humor. But I didn't fully consider my audience, you in particular. So to you, I apologize.
PS And yes, what JoeRedskin said was correct about me. I'm not actually an insensitive ass like that, and I think most of you know that. I'll bust it out on occasion to spice things up. But here, I clearly crossed into some personal territory.
SmootSmack
06-22-2007, 04:00 PM
Schneed, your sig has never been more apropro than in this thread :)
Seriously though, good job with that post. Understood. Now let's move on
SmootSmack
07-04-2007, 11:16 PM
Here's an update
Teen has one foot reattached - U.S. Life - MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19589017/)
jsarno
07-04-2007, 11:53 PM
I love those kinds of rides. I am an amusement park fan!
I have never been on one of those with cables, but I have been on the ones that are air powered.
That really sucks for six flags and the child. This is why amusement parks spends millions of dollars on QA people. I wonder who is going to lose their job over this?