So, do you believe in aliens?

Fabulous article in this weekend's Times that discusses this show as part of an expo on the Mayan calander (which many people are interpreting to say we humans are toast in 2012).


Man, my alien buddy TOTALLY believes that the world is ending in 2012, I mean he is already planning on cashing in his 401K and having a kick ass party in the Carribean. That's some messed up shit, but if he's buying I guess Im there. A ton of people believe that it will all end in 2012.

Isnt' that Roswell article wierd though? I mean, its not like he said this crap when he was alive, to the contrary, the letter he wrote was not to be opened until his death. I really do think something happened there.

Man, my alien buddy TOTALLY believes that the world is ending in 2012, I mean he is already planning on cashing in his 401K and having a kick ass party in the Carribean. That's some messed up shit, but if he's buying I guess Im there. A ton of people believe that it will all end in 2012.

Isnt' that Roswell article wierd though? I mean, its not like he said this crap when he was alive, to the contrary, the letter he wrote was not to be opened until his death. I really do think something happened there.

Yeah, the problem is that the Mayan Calander just ends in 2012...it is more contemporary scholars who have interpreted that to mean the end of the world.

The article makes a great point I think when it argues that in a time in which social, economic, and religious institutions are beginning to break down, when we face more threats then ever before, apocolypse theory has a certain appeal, detailing a new path for civilization, sort of a way of cleansing a failing world order. It explains both the popularity of Mayan mysticism with liberals as well as all that rapture stuff with the southerners. Different eschatology but same appeal really.

I have read that Roswell stuff and I never understood why so many people are incredulous about it. Here's what I mean: if aliens did crash into Earth what would the government have done in response? Most would agree exactly what they are accused of doing, cover it up. So while none of us really know anything, I don't get not having an open mind relative to this specific conspiracy. In other words, if you can accept that aliens probably exist I would think you would at least be willing to entertain a government cover up scenario.

I believe in life on other planets. I do not believe that any other planetary life form has made it to our planet with our knowledge.

I believe in life on other planets. I do not believe that any other planetary life form has made it to our planet with our knowledge.

Why? If you can accept the first, why is the latter such a stretch?

I'm not saying you are wrong, but what evidence are you basing your position on? Just curious.

Yeah, the problem is that the Mayan Calander just ends in 2012...it is more contemporary scholars who have interpreted that to mean the end of the world.

The article makes a great point I think when it argues that in a time in which social, economic, and religious institutions are beginning to break down, when we face more threats then ever before, apocolypse theory has a certain appeal, detailing a new path for civilization, sort of a way of cleansing a failing world order. It explains both the popularity of Mayan mysticism with liberals as well as all that rapture stuff with the southerners. Different eschatology but same appeal really.
Not sure that can be attributed to southerners specifically. That's pretty much a mainstream protestant belief. Most denominations believe in the second coming.

I would ask the question though. If millions of people did suddenly disappear from the earth, would you consider the rapture had taken place or that all those people had been abducted by aliens?

Yeah, the problem is that the Mayan Calander just ends in 2012...it is more contemporary scholars who have interpreted that to mean the end of the world.

The article makes a great point I think when it argues that in a time in which social, economic, and religious institutions are beginning to break down, when we face more threats then ever before, apocolypse theory has a certain appeal, detailing a new path for civilization, sort of a way of cleansing a failing world order. It explains both the popularity of Mayan mysticism with liberals as well as all that rapture stuff with the southerners. Different eschatology but same appeal really.

I have read that Roswell stuff and I never understood why so many people are incredulous about it. Here's what I mean: if aliens did crash into Earth what would the government have done in response? Most would agree exactly what they are accused of doing, cover it up. So while none of us really know anything, I don't get not having an open mind relative to this specific conspiracy. In other words, if you can accept that aliens probably exist I would think you would at least be willing to entertain a government cover up scenario.

I must say, I never thought I'd see the day I'd see the word "eschatology" on this site!. I'm impressed

I must say, I never thought I'd see the day I'd see the word "eschatology" on this site!. I'm impressed


He is a teacher. That is what he does. And how are you doing this evening SS?

Why? If you can accept the first, why is the latter such a stretch?

I'm not saying you are wrong, but what evidence are you basing your position on? Just curious.

If they have the technology to get to our planet, then they should have the technology to observe us without our notice. I think higher lifeforms would generally approach us with peaceful intentions. I have no evidence, just my own sense of rationale based on my own time in the military where I was stationed at a top secret government installation.

Not sure that can be attributed to southerners specifically. That's pretty much a mainstream protestant belief. Most denominations believe in the second coming.

I would ask the question though. If millions of people did suddenly disappear from the earth, would you consider the rapture had taken place or that all those people had been abducted by aliens?

You are right Lady Brave but end times theology has taken on a new intensity over recent years and this is concentrated to the south primarily. At least that's my understanding. Many people have described this as a new movement within Christianity, even though it's based on beliefs that pretty much all Christians accept.

In answer to your second question, I would probably come here and check the parking lot to find out what had really happened.

He is a teacher. That is what he does. And how are you doing this evening SS?

A little tired. Had to go to a wake tonight, it was about an hour drive each way