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Champ Bailey, Trent Green and Frank Wychek would be my top three.

How about this "What If" scenario. Keep Trent Green, which means that you keep the #11 overall pick in the 1999 Draft (because you wouldn't give it to Minnesota for Brad Johnson). So in the 1999 Draft the Skins pick both Champ Bailey and Javon Kearse (who did have 16 sacks his rookie year). Redskins defense solidified and given a solid pass rush with the addition of Kearse and the offense has a great year with Stephen Davis busting out and Westbrook and Connell going over 1,000 yards receiving. With the Defense solidified the Redskins would defeat Tampa Bay (we should have beaten them anyway!!!) and shut down the greatest show on turf (which might never have been if the Skins kept Green) to make it to the Super Bowl where they defeat the Titans (or some other team given that the Titans would not have gotten Kearse).

So, basically, losing Trent Green meant losing the Super Bowl in 1999! (Tortured logic, I know. I was hoping someone better than Kearse was there to make my scenario really seem plausible but that 1999 draft was really bad with the exception of McNabb, James, Holt, Bailey, and Kearse in his first few years). When you really start thinking about it things would get really weird because if the Skins ponied up for Green then the Rams would have signed a different QB (probably) who might not have gotten hurt and would never have given Kurt Warner a chance, etc. etc. As one last side note, I've always thought that if Andy Heck hadn't gotten hurt in '99 the Skins would have beaten the Bucs. Everyone remembers the bad snap, but it was Simeon Rice beating Kip Vickers all night long that lost that game in my opinion.

Well, according to another thread here some would bring him back still

I would let him retire here.

How about this "What If" scenario. Keep Trent Green, which means that you keep the #11 overall pick in the 1999 Draft (because you wouldn't give it to Minnesota for Brad Johnson). So in the 1999 Draft the Skins pick both Champ Bailey and Javon Kearse (who did have 16 sacks his rookie year). Redskins defense solidified and given a solid pass rush with the addition of Kearse and the offense has a great year with Stephen Davis busting out and Westbrook and Connell going over 1,000 yards receiving. With the Defense solidified the Redskins would defeat Tampa Bay (we should have beaten them anyway!!!) and shut down the greatest show on turf (which might never have been if the Skins kept Green) to make it to the Super Bowl where they defeat the Titans (or some other team given that the Titans would not have gotten Kearse).

So, basically, losing Trent Green meant losing the Super Bowl in 1999! (Tortured logic, I know. I was hoping someone better than Kearse was there to make my scenario really seem plausible but that 1999 draft was really bad with the exception of McNabb, James, Holt, Bailey, and Kearse in his first few years). When you really start thinking about it things would get really weird because if the Skins ponied up for Green then the Rams would have signed a different QB (probably) who might not have gotten hurt and would never have given Kurt Warner a chance, etc. etc. As one last side note, I've always thought that if Andy Heck hadn't gotten hurt in '99 the Skins would have beaten the Bucs. Everyone remembers the bad snap, but it was Simeon Rice beating Kip Vickers all night long that lost that game in my opinion.

You may be on to something. However, you are expecting a lot out of our front office...

I would let him retire here.

I'd sign him but only so he can retire as a Redskin (if that's what he wants) I don't want him putting on the uniform, being in the locker room, or taking the field.

I'd sign him but only so he can retire as a Redskin (if that's what he wants) I don't want him putting on the uniform, being in the locker room, or taking the field.

He couldn't take Lindsay's spot?

He couldn't take Lindsay's spot?

I admit if he is not ready to retire he would add outstanding depth. If he wants to retire, then let him retire. Should Lavar choose to compete then I say let him compete. IMO he is still one of the most explosive LB's out there bad knee or not.

Just to support my opininon is the fact that most people are supportive of Shawn Springs being our most dominant CB regardless of injury. Why is LaVar any different? Lavar is younger at this point.

I admit if he is not ready to retire he would add outstanding depth. If he wants to retire, then let him retire. Should Lavar choose to compete then I say let him compete. IMO he is still one of the most explosive LB's out there bad knee or not.

Just to support my opininon is the fact that most people are supportive of Shawn Springs being our most dominant CB regardless of injury. Why is LaVar any different? Lavar is younger at this point.

Because Lavar never fully recovered from the multiple knee injuries and then he blew out his achilles. Now he has a deep cut and a broken arm. Not to mention it took him 2 weeks or more to get out of the hospital.

Springs was never fully healthy but he could still check Steve Smith. I will take that all day long.

How are they similar, again?

Because Lavar never fully recovered from the multiple knee injuries and then he blew out his achilles. Now he has a deep cut and a broken arm. Not to mention it took him 2 weeks or more to get out of the hospital.

Springs was never fully healthy but he could still check Steve Smith. I will take that all day long.

How are they similar, again?

Because when LaVar actually played at the end of 2005 he was making plays and he actually revitalized a defense that was struggling at that point in the year. Just in case you didn't remember.

Because when LaVar actually played at the end of 2005 he was making plays and he actually revitalized a defense that was struggling at that point in the year. Just in case you didn't remember.

So let me get this straight. At this point in their careers, you would rather have Lavar Arrington?

So let me get this straight. At this point in their careers, you would rather have Lavar Arrington?


No, no, no, no, I am merely saying that if we had a chance to get him let him compete for a starting job. If he doesnt get the job then at least we know that he adds great depth.


Call me crazy, but I value Smoot and Rogers over Springs any day of the week. That is just my opinion though, and I know that it is not a popular one.