ESPN: What to watch in the NFC

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dmek25
07-25-2007, 07:16 PM
i agree. none of this matters until the real deal, the games. but i do respect Clayton's opinions

dblanch66
07-25-2007, 07:36 PM
Compared to what else we have, I'll live with JC's "lack of pocket presence". Brunell practically tap dances back there and Collins just sucks.

70Chip
07-25-2007, 08:35 PM
His pocket presence was fine. His huddle presence needs to be Theismannized by about 15%. Laid back is for surfers and potheads. He needs to get a little more vocal with certain receivers who looked lost and will remain nameless because you guys know who I mean anyway.

hooskins
07-25-2007, 09:15 PM
Yeah, I thought that was a little weirdly stated too. Clayton is good typically so I gave him a pass on that.

Yeah he is pretty good with stuff like that. Maybe he looked at Campbell's completion percentage and assumed it correlated with pocket presence even though that makes no sense at all.

hesscl34
07-25-2007, 09:32 PM
pocket presence... hmmmmm... let's think about that. He's 6 4' and has to bend deep at the knee to even get a good snap and he runs a good mile back before he throws (long legs).... he's back there a while. Scrambles well, keeps his head up..looks long. Young, learning, being conservative.. waiting for the right play, feeling it out and finding his home in the pocket. All seems pretty normal to me for a young QB with a rocket for an arm. Blast them all (sports writers). JC is going to be GREAt as soon as he learns the system. Count on it.

freddyg12
07-25-2007, 10:55 PM
What else do you expect the players to say?:smashfrea

nothing

JGisLordOfTheRings
07-25-2007, 11:00 PM
Compared to what else we have, I'll live with JC's "lack of pocket presence". Brunell practically tap dances back there and Collins just sucks.

They are the kings of suck. Collins may know the offense but that doesnt do you any good when you like to throw the ball to defensive lineman.

Todd Collins: nominated for douche-bag of the decade

GTripp0012
07-25-2007, 11:48 PM
I wonder how many of these guys browse Warpath then go and put their articles together?None. Thats called research. Research is for nerds and lesser wimps. Not for badass sportswriters.

Or so the legend goes.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
07-26-2007, 01:05 AM
Clayton is usually pretty on point. If I get a chance this afternoon, I'll try to find out if he meant something else.

Want to trade jobs? I'll throw in my girlfriend too. ;)

SmootSmack
07-26-2007, 01:09 AM
Want to trade jobs? I'll throw in my girlfriend too. ;)

It's not like me and Clayton are drinking buddies or anything like that. In fact, usually when I talk to him it's through another person who works on NFL programming.

That said, I never got a chance today to reach out to him

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