Why is Bonds still allowed to get after the record?

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MTK
07-26-2007, 05:22 PM
I think Griffey Jr. could have had it had he stayed healthy.

Yeah no doubt. He's still going to end up with some impressive numbers but you just have to wonder what could have been.

jdlea
07-26-2007, 05:27 PM
Well, I was going to let it go, but after watching that interview on ESPN NEWS, I am outraged that people are embracing him.
I think baseball is going to get a permanant black eye with this.

I'm a huge baseball fan and I can't wait for him to break it. Baseball has embraced cheating throughout its history and now all of a sudden they want to act like it's an issue? Whenever they take down greaseballers/spitballers/ball scuffers out of the hall, I'll agree.

When you consider that a lot of pitchers have been caught using steroids, it makes it seem like Bonds is par for the course as far as baseball is concerned. Baseball deserves exactly what they're getting. I, personally, have no problem with Barry or anything he's done.

Wake me up when he tests positive.

Sammy Baugh Fan
07-26-2007, 06:14 PM
MLB is a joke. Cheaters win.
I went 1 game and I'll never go to another if they embrace bonds

Besides it's 3 minutes of action crammed into 4 hours - George Carlin

skinsfan_nn
07-26-2007, 06:21 PM
Can't stand bonds. And don't support MLB AT ALL, could care less!

SmootSmack
07-26-2007, 06:51 PM
I'm a huge baseball fan and I can't wait for him to break it. Baseball has embraced cheating throughout its history and now all of a sudden they want to act like it's an issue? Whenever they take down greaseballers/spitballers/ball scuffers out of the hall, I'll agree.

When you consider that a lot of pitchers have been caught using steroids, it makes it seem like Bonds is par for the course as far as baseball is concerned. Baseball deserves exactly what they're getting. I, personally, have no problem with Barry or anything he's done.

Wake me up when he tests positive.

Preach on my brother! 100% agree

RobH4413
07-26-2007, 07:16 PM
Lacrosse will take over baseball in 15 years anyway... who cares. :cheeky-sm

But seriously, I don't happen to think anyone exposed of cheating / doping deserves supreme recognition.

You don't win the gold in olympics, you lose the tour de france, and you certainly aren't allowed to play in professional sports. If there is no positive test, then that's that. End of discussion....

As far as all the allegations go, DMX probably says it best; "Talk is cheap mother F%#$^#".

MTK
07-26-2007, 07:44 PM
I'm a huge baseball fan and I can't wait for him to break it. Baseball has embraced cheating throughout its history and now all of a sudden they want to act like it's an issue? Whenever they take down greaseballers/spitballers/ball scuffers out of the hall, I'll agree.

When you consider that a lot of pitchers have been caught using steroids, it makes it seem like Bonds is par for the course as far as baseball is concerned. Baseball deserves exactly what they're getting. I, personally, have no problem with Barry or anything he's done.

Wake me up when he tests positive.

Good point.

jsarno
07-26-2007, 08:48 PM
Preach on my brother! 100% agree

So it doesn't concern you that he actually admitted it? The fact that he says he thought it was flaxseed oil is beleivable for you?

jsarno
07-26-2007, 08:52 PM
You don't win the gold in olympics, you lose the tour de france, and you certainly aren't allowed to play in professional sports. If there is no positive test, then that's that. End of discussion....


See, this is what I don't get. You say you need a positive test....but he ADMITTED to taking it, so admission is better than a test. The problem here is him saying he thought he was taking flaxseed oil, and not steroids...and of course, people buying it hook line and sinker.

SmootSmack
07-26-2007, 09:40 PM
So it doesn't concern you that he actually admitted it? The fact that he says he thought it was flaxseed oil is beleivable for you?

My understanding is in a leaked grand jury testimony he said he unknowingly took the cream or clear or something like that. But he's never been tested for it, as best I can recall.

What concerns me is the double standard. As has been mentioned, cheaters have been allowed for years in MLB. See Gaylord Perry, who's in the Hall of Fame for crying out loud. The Sosa's, McGwire's, and Bonds' of the world saw an opening when baseball turned the other way when performance enhancing drugs came into play. They needed fans back in the seats and "chicks dig the long ball." Then when the public outcry came, baseball suddenly went Renault on everyone. ("Shocked! Shocked! to find out there is gambling going on here" only to be handed his gambling winnings while making this pronouncement.)

MLB wants to act like Bonds has ruined the integrity of the sport, but they themselves ruined it long ago. The concern should be about the dangers of these drugs (see Chris Benoit, or the girl who died of an infection after applying too much cream), not whether there should be an asterisk next to Bonds' name. Will there be one next to all the pitchers he didn't get a homerun against who were on steroids themselves.

Look, I don't know Bonds but most say he's not that great a person. And that certainly hurts him at this time. I think even before the last decade he's one of the greatest players ever and he's a Hall of Famer if his career ended 10 years ago. Would he be my first choice to hold the record? No, but that doesn't mean I think everything should be done to keep him from it

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