Mooby Needs Legal Advice

You realize when you "OD" on drugs that it isn't like having hangover? You need medical assistance or you have a good chance of dying. As in dead. I doubt your friend has ever ODed. Rather she was just seriously f*cked up. All in all I find your reluctance to really help your friend really reduces my sympathy for you here. If you wanted to help her you would get her ass nailed instead of enabling her. I can't believe the cop was so non-chalant when you told them about her. Good cop.

I'm not looking for sympathy I'm just looking for legal advice. This is my first run in with the law ever and hopefully it's my last. And who knows, perhaps she was seriously fucked up or she od'd, I don't have a meter that judges how close a person is to dying when they do drugs. The only reason I posted this was because a lot of members on this forum are a lot older, wiser, and more experienced when it comes to the law than I am. If you guys wish to chastise me about how stupid I am when it comes to helping out my friends, ok.

I respect your opinions and as different as they might be than mine, I realize that everyone is entitled to their own. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed as evidenced by how I screwed this up, and it's probably gonna be evidenced in the future because now I have to pay a lot of money that I don't have.

I knew that by posting this, I opened myself to the opinions of the board members. I've read the Hessy vs. Schneed threads and I've learned from them. If you guys do not wish to help me then that is fine and dandy.

I'm not looking for sympathy I'm just looking for legal advice. This is my first run in with the law ever and hopefully it's my last. And who knows, perhaps she was seriously fucked up or she od'd, I don't have a meter that judges how close a person is to dying when they do drugs. The only reason I posted this was because a lot of members on this forum are a lot older, wiser, and more experienced when it comes to the law than I am. If you guys wish to chastise me about how stupid I am when it comes to helping out my friends, ok.

I respect your opinions and as different as they might be than mine, I realize that everyone is entitled to their own. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed as evidenced by how I screwed this up, and it's probably gonna be evidenced in the future because now I have to pay a lot of money that I don't have.

I knew that by posting this, I opened myself to the opinions of the board members. I've read the Hessy vs. Schneed threads and I've learned from them. If you guys do not wish to help me then that is fine and dandy.

I don't know that people are trying to chastise you per se. I'm sure you meant and thought you were doing the right thing.

I can't speak to the legal help. I can speak to helping someone out who has a drug problem. And the best advice I (and I think others) can offer is that you don't need to "protect" your friends by doing nothing. Well not "nothing", but I think you know what I mean. I learned this the hard way.

Again, as for the legal advice I'd save that to others to offer.

i don't think mooby was at all "reluctant" to help out a friend. I mean, put yourself in his situation, i know i can. I can't say what i would have done because i don't know the whole situation. I mean, if i was worried i probably wouldn't call the cops before i called a friend. Calling the cops puts your friend introuble. Obviously your friend would rather live than be in a bit of trouble (That is the stuff RAs tell you on your first day of college) but its a lot easier said than done. All i am saying is that we all could say that we would call the police but when the time comes maybe we wouldn't. If I was sure my friend was dying I would make sure to call 911, obviously. Its just not so black and white as that. Also mooby seems to be taking a lot of the responsibility so lets not be so hard on him. SHit i know that same situation could happen to me any day, especially when i'm at school.

Like there was some kid that got f..ed up drinking too much at school early in the year. His friends called 911 and he got better. However, I am pretty sure i heard he got kicked out of housing. Where as if they gave him water and watched over him he wouldn't get in any trouble at all. I mean, that is a dumb ass rule. It makes kids not want to ask for help in fear of being in trouble. Also, for me at least, taking the blame and consequences of your actions is easier than your actions effecting other people. Now i am not positive that he got kicked out but i am pretty sure he did. Also this was 9, 10 months ago so i forget much of it.


I'm still agree 100% that if you are worried about a friends life then the trouble they get into is nothing compared to what can happen. Even if it is as low as 5%. The risk isn't worth it. I mean i've had this discussion with friends. Its the friends fault for putting the other friend in that position and if they are unhappy with the decision they only have their dumbass self to blame. I just feel when the time comes it is not so easy.


Unfortunatley mooby i don't know what kind of stuff you'll be facing so i can't help but good luck and your friend is lucky to have a friend like you.

Thank you Smootsmack. Clearly I am learning this the hard way, and I can see how you could say that I was doing "nothing", but I felt at the moment that I was trying to do something by driving up there to help her out. I care about my friends a lot, and I wouldn't have been driving up there had I not wanted to help them. I made the decision to not call the police because she's been in quite a bit of legal trouble before and this would've only worsened her troubles. In hindsight that was the wrong thing to do, as it was to not tell the trooper to send an ambulance up there. And thanks for the kind words The BSB.

Thank you Smootsmack. Clearly I am learning this the hard way, and I can see how you could say that I was doing "nothing", but I felt at the moment that I was trying to do something by driving up there to help her out. I care about my friends a lot, and I wouldn't have been driving up there had I not wanted to help them. I made the decision to not call the police because she's been in quite a bit of legal trouble before and this would've only worsened her troubles. In hindsight that was the wrong thing to do, as it was to not tell the trooper to send an ambulance up there. And thanks for the kind words The BSB.

Hopefully you understand that I don't literally mean "nothing"

Anyway, my best advice moving forward in this situation from a legal standpoint is to just tell it like it is. The more you try to spin a story the more difficult it will be to clear yourself.

Yes I do understand what you mean. And as of now that is my plan, I've seen many, many instances where people spin stories and only end up hurting themselves in the end. The Duke case is a prime example, that stripper told so many different stories everyone knew she was lying.

Mooby, based on personal experience, you should definitely get a lawyer. Also, when you appear in court having one, preferrably both, of your parents there to stand with you and show the court that they support you actually does help. Come dressed in a suit and tie. Fresh haircut. First impressions are critical. Hopefully you were very cooperative with the officer. The district attorney will try and nail your ass big time, so the battle is trying to swing the judge to your side. The judge may ask you what have you done since the traffic violation as far as owning up to the responsibility. Be honest and actually limit your driving to only work, church (if you go) and school. The lawyer will help you say the right things to the judge and will probably have a better idea of what exactly you should say in your defense.

Honestly, since this is your first offense and your apparent cause was to to rush to the aid of a friend who appeared to be in a life-threatened situation you may be able to get a reduced fine and not have your license suspended.

One more thing, I'm sure you already know but 90 mph is a guaranteed ticket to the afterlife. You will not survive a crash going at that speed. Not to mention you are probably going to kill another person, possibly a man, his pregnannt wife who themselves are rushing to the hospital in expectations of bringing their baby into this world. I know you were speeding to get to your friend quicker but you actually wasted more time due to the traffic stop. Sorry to nag but I've dealt with situations like this for the last 10 years on too frequent a basis. I hope everything works out.

1) Get a Layer. You'll probably have to pay the same amount as the ticket, but it won't be all in speeding fines.
2) I totally understand you not sending an ambulance. Regardless of what's going on, it's tough to sell out a friend like that.
3) First offense you're probably okay? How old are you and how long have you been driving? I seriously doubt you'll get reckless driving.
4) As someone else said, look respectable when you go into court, bring family if possible, and be polite. If possible, find out who the judge will be and do a little research. For instance, when I was in court for contributing to the delinquency of a minor (which I beat, they drank my booze when I was 19; I didn't have sex with a 12 year old...) a family member wore a Marines hat because he was an ex-Marine and so was the judge. The hearing ended in them exchanging Semper Fi's.

@724: Thanks for the help. I already planned on both of my parents being there, I've already told them and we've agreed that the only driving I'm going to be doing is to go to work and back. My dad also told me that it would help me out if I attended a driver improvement course at one of the various driving schools around here before they order me to go to one, so I plan on doing that. And yes, I never plan on going that fast again, it's safe to say that I never plan on going faster than 5 above the speed limit ever again too. Thanks for the advice.

@Daseal: I'm 19 and I've had my license for a little more than a month now. My parents were really hesitant to let me get my license because I'm an epileptic and they didn't want to risk me having a seizure behind the wheel. I had my permit for a really long time because of that. And I do plan on dressing in a suit and tie and being polite. Thanks for the advice as well.