No Matter What, At Least We're Not Doing This...

Quinn is probably their best QB right now, rookie struggles to be expected and all, but in the long it really doesn't matter who they put in. 3rd year Anderson, 3rd year Frye, and rookie Quinn are all barely above replacement level.

I have Cleveland winning 8 games this year, but certainly not behind their offense.

Quinn wont start. Frye will start, he's the better of the 2 eligible for starting, but Quinn will be thrust in if they dont win at least 3 of their first 5. Bank on that.I'd agree with this assessment. It doesn't really matter who starts, that team is going to be better in the second half than the first.

Quinn is probably their best QB right now, rookie struggles to be expected and all, but in the long it really doesn't matter who they put in. 3rd year Anderson, 3rd year Frye, and rookie Quinn are all barely above replacement level.

I have Cleveland winning 8 games this year, but certainly not behind their offense.

8? Wow. Have they really improved that much on D? Last year all they effectively did on that side of the ball was look like us last year; awful. Maybe I'm underrating them. Then again, I dont think the Lions will win 8 games next year. They MIGHT put up a lot of points and make some FF owners happy, but they wont win games. Their lines on both sides of the ball are atrocious at best.

Overall, starting Quinn wouldnt be a bad idea. I think they agree that he IS their future so, might as well get him in there now. But you could make an argument for sitting him as well. All depends.

8? Wow. Have they really improved that much on D? Last year all they effectively did on that side of the ball was look like us last year; awful. Maybe I'm underrating them. Then again, I dont think the Lions will win 8 games next year. They MIGHT put up a lot of points and make some FF owners happy, but they wont win games. Their lines on both sides of the ball are atrocious at best.

Overall, starting Quinn wouldnt be a bad idea. I think they agree that he IS their future so, might as well get him in there now. But you could make an argument for sitting him as well. All depends.They do have some offensive talent. Not in the offensive backfield, but enough to be competant.

I do think pretty highly of their defense this year. Leigh Bodden is a great corner. Kamerion Wimbley and D'Qwell Jackson quietly had great rookie years. I think they will take the next step.

But the main reason I say 8 and not 7 or 6 is because of a soft out-of-division schedule. NFC West for starters, and a 4th place divisional schedule, giving them Houston, Oakland, and Miami. They will win more games than those 3 teams.

I see playoffs for them next season (2008), when Quinn begins to look like the Carson Palmer of 2004.

They do have some offensive talent. Not in the offensive backfield, but enough to be competant.

I do think pretty highly of their defense this year. Leigh Bodden is a great corner. Kamerion Wimbley and D'Qwell Jackson quietly had great rookie years. I think they will take the next step.

But the main reason I say 8 and not 7 or 6 is because of a soft out-of-division schedule. NFC West for starters, and a 4th place divisional schedule, giving them Houston, Oakland, and Miami. They will win more games than those 3 teams.

I see playoffs for them next season.

1) I like the Browns, and secrectly, I root for them because they are ALWAYS heavy underdogs ( a la' Redskins ) so, I feel for them. Now, I may root for them, but I dont keep track of their players as much as I do 'Skins players. I know that when Kellen Winslow is healthy he is a BIG factor as is that WR they have whose name I cant remember because I'm a little drunk. Other than those two, I know nada so, I'll kind of have to take your word for it there.

2) Duh! I make am opinion about a team quicker than I should have. Didnt even check out their schedule for this year. Oak, Mia, and Hou are all quite winnable games for the Browns, barring a breakdown. I like Houston the best out of the 3 for some f-ed up reason. They are my sleeper pick to have a decent year. I believe the Texans could win 7-8 games next year, but that is sheerly based on my liking of Matt Schaub and my thinking that their D wont suck forever if they keep pumping 1st round picks into it.

Playoffs possible for Browns. We will have to see! :-)

2) Duh! I make am opinion about a team quicker than I should have. Didnt even check out their schedule for this year. Oak, Mia, and Hou are all quite winnable games for the Browns, barring a breakdown. I like Houston the best out of the 3 for some f-ed up reason. They are my sleeper pick to have a decent year. I believe the Texans could win 7-8 games next year, but that is sheerly based on my liking of Matt Schaub and my thinking that their D wont suck forever if they keep pumping 1st round picks into it.Houston is going to be very good very soon. They have picked up some great defensive linemen over the past two seasons. Schaub is going to be very good probably as soon as this year. Ahman Green is not the answer at RB, but that is a big upgrade over last year. They don't have enough pieces in the secondary to make that defensive jump just yet, but I have them down for 7 wins, and that jump will happen, sooner rather than later.

Houston is going to be very good very soon. They have picked up some great defensive linemen over the past two seasons. Schaub is going to be very good probably as soon as this year. Ahman Green is not the answer at RB, but that is a big upgrade over last year. They don't have enough pieces in the secondary to make that defensive jump just yet, but I have them down for 7 wins, and that jump will happen, sooner rather than later.

I agree wholly. Ahman Green is DEF not their answer at RB but, like you said, he is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade at RB. Now, if they could get some good O-Linemen they might ACTUALLY be able to run the ball. LOL.

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Playoffs possible for Browns. We will have to see! :-)

Um, that is a bit of a drastic statement I predict the Browns will go 4-12 / 5-11. And I have a feeling the Texans will be fairly decent this year.

Um, that is a bit of a drastic statement I predict the Browns will go 4-12 / 5-11. And I have a feeling the Texans will be fairly decent this year.

Hmmmm...Maybe I'm not the ONLY person who thinks the Texans cant SUCK forever.

They do have some offensive talent. Not in the offensive backfield, but enough to be competant.

I do think pretty highly of their defense this year. Leigh Bodden is a great corner. Kamerion Wimbley and D'Qwell Jackson quietly had great rookie years. I think they will take the next step.

But the main reason I say 8 and not 7 or 6 is because of a soft out-of-division schedule. NFC West for starters, and a 4th place divisional schedule, giving them Houston, Oakland, and Miami. They will win more games than those 3 teams.

I see playoffs for them next season (2008), when Quinn begins to look like the Carson Palmer of 2004.
Don't forget SS Sean Jones on that D of theirs, I think he is going to become one of the elite safeties in the league in a few years, but anyways I think Brady Quinn is going to be absolutely horrible in the NFL, and I think the Browns have a better chance at winning with Frye and Anderson starting over Quinn.