SKINSnCANES
07-29-2004, 11:51 AM
to anwser the first question, if I remember correctly we did offer Bailey a bigger signing bonus then what he got in Denver. The fact of the matter was that he didnt want to be here, and for that reason im not going to miss him.
As far as Springs, Springs has as much, if not more physical ability then any corner in the league, he was an elite corner. But hes had teh injury bug. If he stays healthy this year then he'll fill Champs shoes just fine.
Why are all of you so high on champ anyways, a lot of you talk about how our dline will give the qb more time and thats where we need champ. Last year champ gave up a lot of plays, far more then he had in previous years. If we dotn get pressure on the qb then it doesnt matter whos at corner. but Williams is oging ot blitz more iwth linebackers to help the dline.
joethiesmanfan
07-29-2004, 11:53 AM
champ bailey is overrated?? watch what T.O. does to Springs by week 4 he will be our nickel back he is garbage.
joethiesmanfan
07-29-2004, 11:54 AM
how we let seattle get bobby taylor and we got springs instead of leaving them with springs and getting bobby taylor is one mistake giobbs has made so far. but getting portis for champ was a good trade for us.
SKINSnCANES
07-29-2004, 11:56 AM
Bobby Taylor is a bum. He should have never made it to the probowl last year, and hes in hes 30's to. He had a solid year but hes no elite player. The thing with springs is he brings more to the table, if he isnt injured then he could be as good as bailey. IF he doesnt get injured.
joethiesmanfan
07-29-2004, 12:02 PM
we got smoot so we will be alright
joethiesmanfan
07-29-2004, 12:06 PM
Taylor is a bum? come on now. Well why did holmgrem get rid of him and get Taylor? they upgraded that position is the conventional wisdom on that subject
Dana87
07-29-2004, 12:09 PM
I never cease to be amazed at the amount of nervousness and negativism I see on this site. C'mon, guys!!! Springs is not a STIFF. We have DRAMATICALLY improved our LB corps. and safety position. The DL is marginally better, but still needs one good pass rusher. And that is not even touching on the HUGELY most important improvement. Defensive coaching can make much more difference to the performance of defense than ANY other factor. You guys should realize that if ANY NFL fans should. Look back at the dramatic ups and downs of our defense as Rhodes and Schott came and went. We now have a D/C that is as good as Rhodes. Stop worrying and join the excitement!! Get on the bandwagon early!!
Oh, yeah. And remember. Bailey did not want to be here. Gibbs doesn't want those kind of guys, and we don't need them.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I always liked Champ, but it's not like he never got burned or was caught out of position. He was fed up with the revolving door at D-Cordinator and decided he was no longer a Redskin. I think I CB core has improved. I realize that Springs is a slight downgrade but I think alot of you nay-sayers will be pleasantly surprized by how good Shawn Springs really is. I can also remember Joe Gibbs & the Redskins winning a Super Bowl with a seconday that didn't scare anyone... Jeris White, (rookie) Vernon Dean, Tony Peters, Mark Murphy. We are looking at starting the season with Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, Matt Bowen, Sean Taylor. Lets not forget Buffalo was the #2 defense in the league last year, and I think we have more talent.
HAIL TO JOE GIBBS AND THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumb:
saden1
07-29-2004, 12:14 PM
I'm a Champ Bailey fan and will forever be. Except of course when he is playing my beloved Skins.
joethiesmanfan
07-29-2004, 12:17 PM
champ did not want to be here true thats why i am glad we have portis, but to say springs is eleite is another matter. we beat seattle last year. i dont remember springs making a differnce. every game the skins played champ was on the frontline
joethiesmanfan
07-29-2004, 12:18 PM
vernon dean lead the nfl in picks one year i liked him.