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BrudLee 08-20-2007, 03:03 PM That is interesting answer Brud Lee. It does make sense though.
I really think he is done in the NFL. Who will want this guy and all the baggage that will go along with him now? The public outrage over the henouis acts he has been involved with will most certainly deter any NFL team from singing him, and then having to deal with his suspension. Like I said a couple of posts ago Have fun in the arena league.
Also on Tank Johnson I heard that on Sirius 2 minute drill that the Skins and Clts we very interested in his services. I don't know how you all feel about this one.
amfhofi07, according to Sirius, we are interested in everyone. I have heard that about the Colts as well - they are thin at DT, are awash in Super Bowl glow and could take a little "bad press" from signing a suspendee, and play the same defensive scheme. Much more likely.
Dlyne8r 08-20-2007, 03:05 PM Where did you read that? Would like to look into that. Haven't heard squat up here, other than folks saying the year minimum and maybe earlier for good behavior type stuff. I think they are talking out of there butt though.
My comment was based on a number of different media outlets (web, radio, tv, etc.). That's why I started my post with "Rumor." However, there is so much speculation right now, who the hell knows. If Vick begins with even the most lenient of possible sentences, one year, that takes him to almost the end of 2008. Potentially he may get 18-24 months and if he gets nailed with the suspension from the NFL after his prison term, well, 2010 may be the earliest he would be eleigible to be reinstated.
artmonkforhallofamein07 08-20-2007, 03:05 PM amfhofi07, according to Sirius, we are interested in everyone. I have heard that about the Colts as well - they are thin at DT, are awash in Super Bowl glow and could take a little "bad press" from signing a suspendee, and play the same defensive scheme. Much more likely.
Very True... Very True..
We are always interested in everyone according to them. LOL
artmonkforhallofamein07 08-20-2007, 03:10 PM I guess we also need to see how the plea plays out and what he actually admits to. If he makes a statement that connects him to the killing of the dogs and the drownings and hangings then you are right in the fact that it would be very unlikely to see him in any kind of uniform in the future.
But you always have to remember that we live in a society that DOES give people 2nd, 3rd and sometimes 4th chances. Considering that most of us have done things and made mistakes that we aren't proud of. I'm fine with that.
Paintrain 08-20-2007, 03:20 PM Vick's going to probably get 18 months which in terms of federal time will likely mean he will serve 12 months in jail (most get out after 75% of their sentence for good behavior) before he is released.
The position the NFL is in now is if he doesn't get sentenced until December (likely) what is his status until then? Do you suspend him indefinitely and deal with it when he is out of prison? Do you reinstate him knowing that nobody will touch him now and then suspend him for a year once he is out? I think it's shortsighted to think he will never play in the NFL again. Yes it's outrageous now but after he serves his debt to soceity, pays a fine, a healthy donation to the ASPCA and films some public service announcements he will be less radioactive.
I'm a dog owner/lover myself and hate these charges, but Leonard Little KILLED SOMEONE. He not only killed someone, but got a subsequent DUI after getting out of jail and is still paying in the NFL. Despite what you may think of Vick as a person, he's still one of the 3 most uniquely talented players in the league. Some team will take a chance on him in '09.
mooby 08-20-2007, 03:22 PM I guess we also need to see how the plea plays out and what he actually admits to. If he makes a statement that connects him to the killing of the dogs and the drownings and hangings then you are right in the fact that it would be very unlikely to see him in any kind of uniform in the future.
But you always have to remember that we live in a society that DOES give people 2nd, 3rd and sometimes 4th chances. Considering that most of us have done things and made mistakes that we aren't proud of. I'm fine with that.
True but Vick doesn't have any support at all, the only people supporting him are the ones saying racism is playing a role in this. And those people are the very small minority, everybody else is still most likely sickened by what he did to those dogs and they probably won't forgive him anytime soon. I for one won't be forgiving him for a very long time, if at all.
TheMalcolmConnection 08-20-2007, 03:22 PM Honestly, I think the only way he could begin the healing is to donate a couple years of his salary directly to some form of animal charity.
redskinsfanatic 08-20-2007, 03:22 PM peter king said last night at halftime of the ravens/giants game that vick would'nt be back in the NFL until 2010 at the earliest.i do'nt know if that's a penalty for the gambling or dog fighting together or not.anybody else here think he may go to canada if the falcons cut him?maybe not this season,but he still draws a lot of people so i would'nt be surprised if he did.as bad is this is,it's nothing compared to the mess the NBA has on its hands because of the drty ref and the potential for a lot more worse than the 1st guy.from what i have read,organized crime may be involved big time with the dirty refs.
I think he will play in the NFL again. Even with all this baggage some team will be desperate enough to take a chance on him. And I don't see Goodell banning him for life. I think he'll do close to a year of prison time, and he'll face a year suspension from the NFL once he gets out.
True but Vick doesn't have any support at all
I guess you haven't heard what cats have been saying.
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