How is Vick "overly prosecuted"?

I personally haven't heard anyone say that the prosecution is racially motivated. I am sure, however, that there is a very small minority of African-Americans who think the prosecution is part of some conspiracy, just as I think there are a small number of whites who want to see him go down.

As for whether Vick is being "overly prosecuted," I guess I'd have to ask what you mean by "overly prosecuted." Are you asking whether his sentence will likely be longer than most other criminals who have committed similar crimes? Are you asking whether the prosecutor was too zealous? Are you asking whether Vick is getting a tougher sentence in the court of public opinion than is deserved?

I love dogs and hate animal cruelty. I've spent some $4,500 for two surgeries for two dogs who I adopted from the local SPCA and a disaster relief shelter and thousands more dollars on toys, cans of science diet, vet fees, etc. I also cried like a little girl when my last dog died of cancer. I also think that Michael Vick deserves to go to prison for at least one year. But, I think when you consider the fact that he (1) will likely lose about $20-$40M dollars in salary and endorsements, (2) will likely lose his career, (3) and is about to lose his freedom for a year or more, it would be hard to argue that Vick is being "under-punished."

Please try not to read too much into that last sentence. I am thrilled that more attention is being paid to animal/dog rights, Vick is going to jail, and that we, as a society, seem to have evolved in terms of our love of animals. I was just trying to make the point that it is hard to argue that all of the punishment that Vick has and will receive is light.

Well, there is a difference here. His punishment will be a suspension from the NFL and incarceration. The consequences of his actions are the loss of endorsements and salary.
If you were incarcerated, I'd wager your boss would discontinue your salary as well.
The fact that he COULD and likely will return to the NFL at some point means the punishment is not stiff enough. Again, if it was a normal person with a normal job, we would not get our jobs back after we were done, and it would be very hard to find a job being a felon.

Look at Don Imus...all he did was utter 3 words in a forum where freedom of speech should have been applied, and he lost EVERYTHING.

Look at Don Imus...all he did was utter 3 words in a forum where freedom of speech should have been applied, and he lost EVERYTHING.

Not to threadjack, but Don Imus got fired because he is an idiot. He got paid because people liked what he said, then he said some pretty idiotic things that people didn't like, his employer was losing ad money, and so Imus was fired. Imus has the right to his opinions, but his employer had the right to fire him because his comments hurt the company's bottom line.

In any event, what exactly does Imus have to do with Vick?

Pretty hard to feel bad for Vick--I mean, in a movie, if you want to show that a character is really bad, then you have him kill a dog. Vick admitted to being involved with the death of six. And he has (had!) a 130 mil contract. What an idiot.

(Prediction: Imus will be back soon. Martha is doing fine. Wonder if the NFL will let Vick back in? Do the Raiders need a QB? He's wouldn't even be the Cinncy bengal with the most jail time.)

(No, I don't think the NFL should.)

(I have a bad feeling about this thread...)

Not to threadjack, but Don Imus got fired because he is an idiot. He got paid because people liked what he said, then he said some pretty idiotic things that people didn't like, his employer was losing ad money, and so Imus was fired. Imus has the right to his opinions, but his employer had the right to fire him because his comments hurt the company's bottom line.

In any event, what exactly does Imus have to do with Vick?

Also...not the first time Imus made comments like that

Not to threadjack, but Don Imus got fired because he is an idiot. He got paid because people liked what he said, then he said some pretty idiotic things that people didn't like, his employer was losing ad money, and so Imus was fired. Imus has the right to his opinions, but his employer had the right to fire him because his comments hurt the company's bottom line.

Well, you're getting deep into Imus, and that's not the point, the point is:
And the NFL / Falcons don't have the right to "fire" Vick?
What Vick did was 1 million times worse (and I'm being nice) than what Imus did, and Imus lost everything for it, so why shouldn't Vick?

In any event, what exactly does Imus have to do with Vick?

It's about the persecution of an exhaulted person. Note the very first comment here with Imus and Martha Stewart.

Also...not the first time Imus made comments like that


Nor is it the first time Vick has done something stupid. (ie: knowingly give a woman an STD and the whole water bottle incident...he's not a "great guy" like everyone says when he does these things)

Also, regardless if Imus has SAID anything, those were just words, and this country is founded on freedom of speech. Huge differences there.

Don Imus hasn't lost everything - he has his freedom, he didn't have to give his employer back his salary, and he may (http://drudgereport.com/flash2ii.htm) get another gig. FYI - The First Amendment doesn't apply to the whole Imus incident.

Your argument doesn't make sense to me. Imus lost his job with CBS, but could likely come back. Whether it's through terrestrial radio or satellite radio, or tv, or the web, etc.

Vick lost his job (though not officially yet) with the Falcons, he's going to prison, and there's no guarantee he's coming back to the NFL.

I'm really tired of hearing Vick's name. I'm even more tired of the Vick threads. Sorry, had to say it. Carry on...


Agreed! Give it a rest already!

Can we vote for when the next Vick thread is allowed? I vote for when he is sentenced...we'll have a Vick thread that day, then no more until he is out of the pen.

Your argument doesn't make sense to me. Imus lost his job with CBS, but could likely come back. Whether it's through terrestrial radio or satellite radio, or tv, or the web, etc.

Well really, they don't have a lot of similarity, the point is Imus was overly prosecuted, and Vick is not. (same with Martha Stewart being over prosecuted and Vick is not) Vick is getting a light sentence and punishment.

Vick lost his job (though not officially yet) with the Falcons, he's going to prison, and there's no guarantee he's coming back to the NFL.

He'll be back. (although I'd say as a WR)