Can we drop the complaining about headsets every game? [Archive] - Page 3

SmootSmack

10-30-2007, 11:17 PM

That's because there is no point to this thread. Why is this guy coming on here today and just bashing the Skins every way he can think of? Might I direct you to the Patriots fan board, I think you'd be much happier there my friend. I'll just direct you to the JLC blog where he talked about this topic (see below). It's not just the Skins complaining and it seems to be a recurring 'problem' with some of these teams. I know it won't convince you because you just want to be contrarian apparently.

Headset Conspiracies

So I'm talking to some various personnel people yesterday just trying to stay up on some things, when the conversations turns to Beli-cheat, and other forms of gamesmanship. So I mention to this one exec about how fired up Coach Joe was in recent weeks about the headsets going down in Philly and Green Bay this season, and this says that his teams has reported both of those clubs to the league for the same thing.
Seems like it's not a coincidence after all. This guy, whose team has played in Green Bay and Philly in the past two seasons, says that in both cases, at fairly critical junctures in the game, all of a sudden they lost headset communication.
"I think if you talk to teams around the league, you'll find there's definitely shenanigans going on in Green Bay and Philly," he said.
Now, to put it in perspective, as much as the offended team was upset about all of this, he said you also learn over time to brace for this kind of stuff around the league. "Everybody's got something," he said. "That's why they call it home-field advantage."
As many of you Skins fans have pointed out to me in hordes of emails and submissions during webchats, many of the people who go to games at FedEx Field are convinced the Redskins pump in fan noise through the speakers (another no-no). But, again, there seems to be a sort of acceptance of this stuff, and I'm not exactly what's considered crossing the line.
Even Belichick's stealing signs thing was met by apathy in some quarters of the NFL as kind of a time-honored tradition, while others got all tweaked about it. Where do you guys stand on this? Should you expect a totally even playing field on the road, or do you have to kind of brace for this kind of wacky stuff away from home?
Also, at the risk of getting a forearm shiver to the skull, I plan to point out to Coach Joe that the Redskins have not lost to the Pats in 35 years - a fact my boy Bram just made me aware of - and also that the Skins are the only team Tom Brady has yet to defeat. If you're a Skins fan, the perfect scenario would entail me asking Coach Joe about this today - and I'll definitely couch it in a humorous way - and then Coleman or DLD asking him about it again on Friday, when all hell could break loose.

Just to add to that

"At one point we had a good drive going against the Patriots," said one Lion who doesn't want his name involved in this mess, but was willing to talk about it. "Mike Martz really had 'em going. They were getting fouled up, lining up wrong, we were moving the ball. Then boom, the headset from the sidelines to the coaches' booth goes out.

"Next possession we were moving the ball again and the same thing happened. You know it only takes two or three plays to mess up a drive."

Matt Millen, the Lions' GM, says he was talking to another team's head coach at the league meetings. He started telling him the story.

"Yeah, I know," the coach said. "Headset went out. It happened to me in Foxboro, too."

SI.com - Writers - Dr. Z: Patriots bring cheating in the NFL into the modern era - Thursday September 13, 2007 6:21PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/dr_z/09/13/cheating/index.html)

Coaches like the Jaguars’ Jack DelRio, the Lions’ Rod Marinelli and the Bengals’ Marvin Lewis swapped stories of mysterious equipment breakdowns in Foxboro.

Projo PatsBlog (http://www.beloblog.com/ProJo_Blogs/PatsBlog/archives/2007/09/martone_it_was.html)

Not why we lost in my opinion but still it's interesting stuff


	Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum > Can we drop the complaining about headsets every game? Log in Can we drop the complaining about headsets every game? Pages : 1 2 [3] billyharless 10-30-2007, 03:04 AM If the headsets go out for us, doesn't the other team have to turn theirs off anyway? To me that makes it a non issue. If one team had working headsets and the other team didn't, then that is an issue. GhettoDogAllStars 10-30-2007, 11:11 AM JWsleep is right: "If one team loses all headset communication during a game, the other team must abandon its system under the so-called 'equity rule.' The rule, however, does not apply when only coach-to-quarterback communication is lost." ESPN - Sando: Teams playing head games? - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3035449) SmootSmack 10-30-2007, 11:17 PM That's because there is no point to this thread. Why is this guy coming on here today and just bashing the Skins every way he can think of? Might I direct you to the Patriots fan board, I think you'd be much happier there my friend. I'll just direct you to the JLC blog where he talked about this topic (see below). It's not just the Skins complaining and it seems to be a recurring 'problem' with some of these teams. I know it won't convince you because you just want to be contrarian apparently. Headset Conspiracies So I'm talking to some various personnel people yesterday just trying to stay up on some things, when the conversations turns to Beli-cheat, and other forms of gamesmanship. So I mention to this one exec about how fired up Coach Joe was in recent weeks about the headsets going down in Philly and Green Bay this season, and this says that his teams has reported both of those clubs to the league for the same thing. Seems like it's not a coincidence after all. This guy, whose team has played in Green Bay and Philly in the past two seasons, says that in both cases, at fairly critical junctures in the game, all of a sudden they lost headset communication. "I think if you talk to teams around the league, you'll find there's definitely shenanigans going on in Green Bay and Philly," he said. Now, to put it in perspective, as much as the offended team was upset about all of this, he said you also learn over time to brace for this kind of stuff around the league. "Everybody's got something," he said. "That's why they call it home-field advantage." As many of you Skins fans have pointed out to me in hordes of emails and submissions during webchats, many of the people who go to games at FedEx Field are convinced the Redskins pump in fan noise through the speakers (another no-no). But, again, there seems to be a sort of acceptance of this stuff, and I'm not exactly what's considered crossing the line. Even Belichick's stealing signs thing was met by apathy in some quarters of the NFL as kind of a time-honored tradition, while others got all tweaked about it. Where do you guys stand on this? Should you expect a totally even playing field on the road, or do you have to kind of brace for this kind of wacky stuff away from home? Also, at the risk of getting a forearm shiver to the skull, I plan to point out to Coach Joe that the Redskins have not lost to the Pats in 35 years - a fact my boy Bram just made me aware of - and also that the Skins are the only team Tom Brady has yet to defeat. If you're a Skins fan, the perfect scenario would entail me asking Coach Joe about this today - and I'll definitely couch it in a humorous way - and then Coleman or DLD asking him about it again on Friday, when all hell could break loose. Just to add to that "At one point we had a good drive going against the Patriots," said one Lion who doesn't want his name involved in this mess, but was willing to talk about it. "Mike Martz really had 'em going. They were getting fouled up, lining up wrong, we were moving the ball. Then boom, the headset from the sidelines to the coaches' booth goes out. "Next possession we were moving the ball again and the same thing happened. You know it only takes two or three plays to mess up a drive." Matt Millen, the Lions' GM, says he was talking to another team's head coach at the league meetings. He started telling him the story. "Yeah, I know," the coach said. "Headset went out. It happened to me in Foxboro, too." SI.com - Writers - Dr. Z: Patriots bring cheating in the NFL into the modern era - Thursday September 13, 2007 6:21PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/dr_z/09/13/cheating/index.html) Coaches like the Jaguars’ Jack DelRio, the Lions’ Rod Marinelli and the Bengals’ Marvin Lewis swapped stories of mysterious equipment breakdowns in Foxboro. Projo PatsBlog (http://www.beloblog.com/ProJo_Blogs/PatsBlog/archives/2007/09/martone_it_was.html) Not why we lost in my opinion but still it's interesting stuff SouperMeister 10-30-2007, 11:24 PM Ok. Can we stop complaining about the headsets after every loss? Never seems to be an issue in the wins. BTW, no need to be so antagonistic. We're all on the same side here.Didn't Campbell lose communications with the coaches at the end of the half in Philly? If I recall correctly, he still hit Cooley for a TD before halftime, and the Redskins WON that game. I think that the troubling thing is that these communication breakdowns only seem to occur on the road. That's a very strange coincidence if you ask me.