JWsleep
11-10-2007, 05:58 PM
But if Campbell sees eight in the box against a run, can he audible to a pass? Why not?
Sometimes audibles are easier to execute--it depends on the D. In Saunders O, both QB and WR have to make the same read on the play--as we've seen, it can be done, and done well, but the skins have certainly not mastered it yet. Wonder if Gibbs' alterations of Saunders offense has made these options more difficult, by taking WRs off the field?
Campbell17
11-10-2007, 10:22 PM
I gotta disagree with this comment...EVERY good QB uses an audible. Peyton does on every play practically. Most teams will except for those that do not have faith in their QB's.
You shoulda written "GOOD" in CAPS. This is JC, who is lingering around average.
jsarno
11-10-2007, 10:48 PM
You shoulda written "GOOD" in CAPS. This is JC, who is lingering around average.
LOL...true.
70Chip
11-11-2007, 12:27 AM
They don't want Campbell changing from a run to a pass on 1st and 2nd down. If they started down that road we would never run because the defense would always show 8. The sight adjustments that the offense has to make are plenty complicated, so its not that Campbell can't handle it. It's a philosophical approach that Saunders and Gibbs share. I suspect the sight adjustments also explain why Brandon Lloyd is so unpopular with the coaches. He hasn't ever learned them. Also, bear in mind that only some of what you see Peyton Manning doing is real He does it a lot, but some of that is for show.
skinsfan69
11-11-2007, 11:24 AM
Not to sound like a Mr. Know it all but we ran this same system when I played. We used the passing tree 0-9 on 80% of our pass plays. You can change the play if you want to. They can use hand signals. If you can do it in HS then you should be able to do it at the pro level. Not having audibles in crazy.
over the mountain
11-14-2007, 11:33 AM
wow glad i clicked on this thread b/c it discusses something that is worth considering and i learned a few things. thanks for the informative posts guys, wish i could contribute but my depth of knowledge on al saunders and audibles was zero before reading this thread.
but i agree, audibles at the line of scrimmage can work well in the NFL, especialy in an offense that everyone is calling predictable but i think campbell needs more time in the NFL (only has 16 starts to date) before he can be trusted to properly and accurately read defenses and call audibles . . . of course audibles could be called from up stairs to campbells headset in his helmet but that may take too long and this offense doesnt need another thing to delay our play calling.
questions:
so campbell and our receivers have to make the same read for any adjustment/audible from the original playcall?
and they have to trust that they make the same read and are on the same page?
WOW that is alot of ESP going on there, for this too work it seems you would need the same receivers and quarterback for years so they can gel and get some serious chemistry going on . . . plus football intelligent and dedicated "students of the game" players
does rabach still handle the O line audibles/guys to pick up on run and pass plays? im guessing yes . . .
more threads should be like this, dissecting and discussing actual redskins football Xs and Os . .
go skins!
firstdown
11-14-2007, 12:05 PM
We had an audible on that 7 and goal play in the Eagles game which Campbell stuck with the run instaed of using an audible to change it to a pass. So we do use them. How much I'm not sure.
We had an audible on that 7 and goal play in the Eagles game which Campbell stuck with the run instaed of using an audible to change it to a pass. So we do use them. How much I'm not sure.
Yeah I'm not sure if that qualifies as a true audible, or if they just give him 2 options in certain situations like that.
firstdown
11-14-2007, 12:19 PM
Yeah I'm not sure if that qualifies as a true audible, or if they just give him 2 options in certain situations like that.
Well if you go to the line and switch the called play then I think its an audible. Unlike Peyton he has 3 plays then calls the play after they go to the line which in this case it would not be an audible.
Well if you go to the line and switch the called play then I think its an audible. Unlike Peyton he has 3 plays then calls the play after they go to the line which in this case it would not be an audible.
Right, I didn't word that very well, what I wonder if he always has that option, or if he's only allowed to "audible" in certain situations.