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sandtrapjack 11-13-2007, 09:23 AM Detroit is slipping big time losing 3 in a row. Washington beats the G-men, and they own the tie breaker over Arizona (yeah they are still in the hunt). Carolina has big time QB issues and will not get the WC.
If Washington beats the Giants and takes care of business in the NFC, then they should be a front runner for the second wildcard. I just do not see anyone else in the NFC that can do it. The only teams you need to watch are New Orleans, Arizona and Detroit.
But lets say the Giants get the first WC, if Washington is tied with Arizona and Detroit after week 17, Washington wins the head-to-head. So the one you really need to watch is New Orleans. That is why Washington needs to circle the Dallas game at FedEx to end the season. IF (and I mean IF) Dallas secures the #1 seed in the NFC, then they will not play the starters in that game a FedEx and it might be a win you need to secure that second wildcard.
Last week was such a golden opportunity to solidify ourselves in the playoff race. Oh well, time to move on I guess.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-13-2007, 09:32 AM Detroit is slipping big time losing 3 in a row. Washington beats the G-men, and they own the tie breaker over Arizona (yeah they are still in the hunt). Carolina has big time QB issues and will not get the WC.
If Washington beats the Giants and takes care of business in the NFC, then they should be a front runner for the second wildcard. I just do not see anyone else in the NFC that can do it. The only teams you need to watch are New Orleans, Arizona and Detroit.
But lets say the Giants get the first WC, if Washington is tied with Arizona and Detroit after week 17, Washington wins the head-to-head. So the one you really need to watch is New Orleans. That is why Washington needs to circle the Dallas game at FedEx to end the season. IF (and I mean IF) Dallas secures the #1 seed in the NFC, then they will not play the starters in that game a FedEx and it might be a win you need to secure that second wildcard.
Would you want the team to rest the starters? Even if the Redskins were the #1 seed, I couldn't stomach losing to the Cowboys and allowing them to get into the playoffs.
hagams 11-13-2007, 09:42 AM Having the 5th best record is great, but the play we have is not the 5th best in the NFC. We dropped to games that would have ESPN talking about us as a sleeper (GB, and Philly). We haven't been playing good, we've been playing good enough.
Sorry, I didn't mean to bring negatives to the thread. I'm happy with the winning record though. We need to keep winning. Bring on the Cow-girls.
Q: "You know what you call a drug ring in Dallas?"
A: "A huddle."
Schneed10 11-13-2007, 10:16 AM Having the 5th best record means squadoosh. We need to have the 2nd best record amongst teams not leading their division. That puts us behind the Giants and Lions, with the Panthers Saints Bears Cards and Eagles all one game behind us.
We've got work to do, especially with so many injuries.
GTripp0012 11-13-2007, 10:20 AM Last week was such a golden opportunity to solidify ourselves in the playoff race. Oh well, time to move on I guess.For what it's worth, the sabermetrics say that the Eagles played their best game of the season since the Detroit game. That's their best game in the last 7 weeks.
I'm sure our injuries contributed to that, but I think it's best if we just tip our cap to them on this one, and we'll see em next year.
firstdown 11-13-2007, 10:21 AM look, I am all about the Skins making the playoffs, but lets get real people. We are 1-2 in our division, play Dallas twice and NY "football" Giants. Plus we are on the road in Tampa, Minnesota. I am sorry, but I dont think there is anyway in hell we beat the Cowboys. They are too damn good. there is something to say for being die hard fans, but at some point that becomes crazy when you talk about "when we beat the cowboys and giants and this and that" What gives anyone any reason to think we can beat any of those teams? We have not shown anything that gives an impression of being a quality team that can win big games. We fold at the end. Good teams dont fold.
I am sick of hearing the cowboys will start losing, and Green bay will start losing neither can keep up their win streaks.... THEY ARE GOOD TEAMS!! There is a difference there, they find ways to win, make plays when they have to. We find ways to lose and let other teams make the plays. Until we make a change philisophically, this is who we are. Dont you think if anything was going to change it would have all ready. Its been 4 years of the same crap.To say we don't have a chance. Well, its just Un-American.
skinsfan69 11-13-2007, 10:38 AM Judging by alot of the negativity around here lately, I think people are forgetting we are still in this.
Division leaders:
Cowboys 8-1 (we WILL beat them)
Packers 8-1 (we SHOULD have beat them)
Bucs 5-4 (we WILL beat them)
Seahawks 5-4
In the hunt:
Giants 6-3 (we SHOULD have beat them and will beat them next time)
Lions 6-3 (we creamed them)
Redskins 5-4
(5 others at 4-5)
We beat the Cowboys next week, not only are we in this, we are front runners for wild card.
If any team knows that records are thrown out the window when these teams play, it's us. We've beat them when they went to the super bowl, and vice versa. We've beat them when they have had better teams, and vice versa. Throw out everything you know, this will be a Skins victory this week and we WILL make the playoffs.
So what makes you think we can go up to NY and beat The Giants when we can't beat The Eagles at home?
skinsfan69 11-13-2007, 10:43 AM It does depend on who happens to wind up at 9 or 10 wins with us at the end of the year, but we already hold head to head tiebreakers against two serious WC threats, and still play two more.
We don't have to be great down the stretch to make the playoffs. Merely good will get it done. With all the injuries, merely good is pretty much the extent of this teams talent though.
I'm willing to step out and guarantee that this team will make the playoffs, but to be honest, I've already sort of have one eye on the offseason. I hate to say it, but the 6th seed and an early playoff exit is not a very successful season.
I was too optimistic on Campbell this year, and I'll be the first to admit it. He's still very young, and very mistake prone. The defense was a pleasant surprise early, but what we've seen the past 3 weeks is more in line with what I thought we would be on that side of the ball. Too small in the front seven to stop the run, not quite an elite pass defense. Special teams has been pretty good, but the offensive line (especially the uninjured side) hasn't gotten it done this year. Lots of young talent on this team to love, but we need to make a few critical moves to get better.
If we beat Dallas, my whole attitude changes just like that, but until then, I'll have to be forgiven for looking ahead.
Please explain why you think JC is very mistake prone? When I think of very mistake prone QB's I think of Rex Grossman. I think of Alex Smith and Joey Harrington. I think of Phillip Rivers to an extent. I have yet to see JC throw 3,4 and 5 ints in a game. I have yet to see him throw into double coverage alot.
Also we have 3 300+ lb guys on the d-line. I don't think size is an issue. We might need a talent upgrade at DE and maybe one of the tackles. Colts don't have size on their front 7. They just have good players.
GTripp0012 11-13-2007, 11:03 AM Please explain why you think JC is very mistake prone? When I think of very mistake prone QB's I think of Rex Grossman. I think of Alex Smith and Joey Harrington. I think of Phillip Rivers to an extent. I have yet to see JC throw 3,4 and 5 ints in a game. I have yet to see him throw into double coverage alot. Because he's young.
Going into this week, he was getting picked on 3% of his pass attempts, and the league average tends to be around 1.5%. He also has put the ball on the ground three times. (2006 Grossman was picked on 4% of his pass attempts, 2007 Vince Young on 5.3%)
He will improve as he gets older, but I was overly optimistic on him in the short term.
Sunday's game is what I think he will become in the long run. He's got a ways to go to make that a consistent performance.
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