What Will A Win Mean? What Will A Loss Mean?

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jamf
11-16-2007, 02:40 PM
If we Win: F... The cowboys!
If we Lose: F... The cowboys!

12thMan
11-16-2007, 02:45 PM
If we Win: F... The cowboys!
If we Lose: F... The cowboys!

hahaha...nice.

Southpaw
11-16-2007, 02:53 PM
I don't think Gregg Williams' reputation has dropped one iota amongst GMs around the league. You still hear him referred to as a genius just as much as he ever was.

Our coaching is fantastic, with the only exception being Gibbs' clock management and overly conservative nature later in games. Our problem is with depth, and it has now been exposed by this rash of injuries.


Williams still has a tendency to stick to his scheme to a fault, regardless of results. He had Taylor for the Patriots game, and he decided to not blitz Brady at all, even when it was blatantly clear to everyone watching that Brady was perfectly content taking eight yard chunks all effing day. Then he comes back the following week and blitzes a mobile quarterback that can escape the blitz, 30 damn times.

Williams runs a very good defensive scheme, but it's overly dependent on exceptional talent. Yes Sean Taylor is a freak, but if Williams is truly a "fantastic" coach, the defense shouldn't fall apart because he's injured. I'm sure a lot of coordinators could put together a solid defense with freaks at every position.

sportscurmudgeon
11-16-2007, 02:56 PM
Sorry, but I can't agree that the Skins' coaching staff is anything more than slightly above average. They belong in Lake Woebegone.

Gregg Williams is probably the best of the lot.

Joe Bugel is living on reputation - and most of that rputaton was built when Bobby Beathard managed to hand him an offensive line with three players on it who should be considered for the Hall of Fame - - if the Hall of Fame actually inducted offensive linemen.

Al Saunders came here with flourish and fanfare and has delivered - - oatmeal. And don't tell me he doesn't have the personnel because his offense worked in KC with Trent Green and the Three Stooges playing wide receiver.

Whose job is it to take whatever DL happen to be on the team and to teach them how to make the most of their talents? That coach has been mailing it in for the last 2 years. The DL is mediocre and only one of them has shown any real improvement in 2 seasons. [Montgomery].

Oh, and whoever is the genius upstairs who recommends to Joe Gibbs when to challenge and when not to challenge refs calls needs a seeing eye dog.

These guys are not boobs; but they are not outstanding either despite the PR splash that accompanies them any time they sign a deal with the team.

Schneed10
11-16-2007, 03:10 PM
Williams still has a tendency to stick to his scheme to a fault, regardless of results. He had Taylor for the Patriots game, and he decided to not blitz Brady at all, even when it was blatantly clear to everyone watching that Brady was perfectly content taking eight yard chunks all effing day. Then he comes back the following week and blitzes a mobile quarterback that can escape the blitz, 30 damn times.

Williams runs a very good defensive scheme, but it's overly dependent on exceptional talent. Yes Sean Taylor is a freak, but if Williams is truly a "fantastic" coach, the defense shouldn't fall apart because he's injured. I'm sure a lot of coordinators could put together a solid defense with freaks at every position.

I maintain that blitzing Brady in any form would have been a disaster. The score would have been even worse than it was. He's the most poised QB in the face of pressure in the entire league. He'd just sit back there and throw it over your blitzing LBs.

Face it, the Pats were just really really on that day. Nothing anybody could have done.

Schneed10
11-16-2007, 03:12 PM
Sorry, but I can't agree that the Skins' coaching staff is anything more than slightly above average. They belong in Lake Woebegone.

Gregg Williams is probably the best of the lot.

Joe Bugel is living on reputation - and most of that rputaton was built when Bobby Beathard managed to hand him an offensive line with three players on it who should be considered for the Hall of Fame - - if the Hall of Fame actually inducted offensive linemen.

Al Saunders came here with flourish and fanfare and has delivered - - oatmeal. And don't tell me he doesn't have the personnel because his offense worked in KC with Trent Green and the Three Stooges playing wide receiver.

Whose job is it to take whatever DL happen to be on the team and to teach them how to make the most of their talents? That coach has been mailing it in for the last 2 years. The DL is mediocre and only one of them has shown any real improvement in 2 seasons. [Montgomery].

Oh, and whoever is the genius upstairs who recommends to Joe Gibbs when to challenge and when not to challenge refs calls needs a seeing eye dog.

These guys are not boobs; but they are not outstanding either despite the PR splash that accompanies them any time they sign a deal with the team.

I think they're a fantastic group of coaches, but they're bumping into each other. Gibbs needs to either get out of Saunders' way, or just get rid of Saunders.

MTK
11-16-2007, 03:13 PM
A win will mean 6-4 and in solid shape for the playoff picture.

A loss means 5-5 and the playoffs starting to slip away.

Southpaw
11-16-2007, 03:20 PM
I maintain that blitzing Brady in any form would have been a disaster. The score would have been even worse than it was. He's the most poised QB in the face of pressure in the entire league. He'd just sit back there and throw it over your blitzing LBs.

Perhaps, but I don't see how the game could be viewed as a success in any way, shape, or form. The middle/intermediate zone was gashed all day long, and Gregg Willaims did nothing to try to contain it. And the Patriots' execution was so perfect that they were turning four yard checkdowns into 8-10 yard plays.

And unsuccessful blitzing would have been a disaster, but the only times in recent years that I've seen Brady show some weakness has been when he's gotten smacked around a little bit. I just don't see how giving him 3-5 seconds to get rid of the ball on every single pass play was the best option.

SouperMeister
11-16-2007, 03:28 PM
A loss eliminates the last flickering hope of winning the NFC East. It reduces the Skins to pursuing the #6 seed (last wildcard), and it makes the game in Tampa next week a virtual must win given the tiebreaker ramifications.

A win means that we can still dream of catching the Cowboys for the NFC East lead with a little help. It would move us one step closer to the 9 or 10 wins that we'll need to ensure at least a wildcard.

Taking care of business in the more winnable games (TB, Chicago, Buffalo, Minn) is a more realistic path for this team to squeak into the post-season.

skinsfan_nn
11-16-2007, 03:30 PM
A win will mean 6-4 and in solid shape for the playoff picture.

A loss means 5-5 and the playoffs starting to slip away.


You beat me to it. Its that simple IMO.

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