Immortality on hold (warning, this will tick you off)

To add fuel to the fire, how about this comment from Peter King about Tim Brown? Says Brown isn't Hall-Worthy either.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/peter_king/08/09/mmqb/index.html

Tim Brown was three people in front of me at the Hertz No. 1 Gold counter at the Oakland airport. I guess he'd just flown in from somewhere, Dallas probably. All I could think of when I saw him was: dead man walking.

A few days after he got whacked, I saw Woody Paige -- the ESPN Around the Horn guy, Denver columnist and fellow Hall of Fame voter -- talking about Brown on TV. He said he didn't think there was any way Brown would make the Hall of Fame. I thought, wow. A guy catches 1,070 balls, the second-most in NFL history, and the ink's not even dry on the newspaper that reported his whacking and already he's not a Hall of Famer. I'm not sure if he is or not. I just don't get how he gets consigned to Art Monk-ville without his day in court.


Monk-ville? Where does that never-played-a-down-in-his-life fat-a$$ get off? I think it's time for a letter writing campaign to change to way people get into the hall. I think the legends in the Hall of fame should be doing the final voting. They know who belongs in their with them... not the sad sacks who won't vote for a guy because he refused to talk to him.

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So is he saying Tim Brown doesn't belong, or is Woody Paige saying that?

Either way, you're right it is a shame that the numbers alone aren't enough. That there has to be this media-friendliness as well. Baseball you don't have that problem. That's why guys like Eddie Murray and Steve Carlton make it no problem. Because their numbers say they belongs even though they were quiet in front of the camera

How about those that are in the Hall that maybe don't belong?

I'll give you one:

Howie Long. I'm sorry, but he just doesn't cut it. I think that's a clear case of somebody who's currently popular, is in a bunch of TV commercials, and has a knack for talking into the camera on a pregame show that a lot of people watch -- who gets in the HoF basically because he's the 'flavor-of-the-month'.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/alltime/leaders

Accorcding to the article they claim that Aikman and Young are shoe-ins for the HOF, but go and look at the all time leader page and see where they fall on all of the lists. I am not saying that they dont belong or they were not any good. But look at the reciever all time list and see how art monk fairs against the all time leaders.

smootsmack:

Thanks for channeling me. I don't know about you, but I thought it was fantastic; was it good for you too... :)


If Darrell Green does not make the HoF, then they ought to close the doors and turn off the power to the building. I think he will be a first time eligible inductee but even if he misses that first time, he will go in soon after that.

The writers who vote can be a bit priggish in their votes, but Green did nothing in his entire career to turn any of them against him. He's as close to a mortal lock for entry as there is.

smootsmack:

Thanks for channeling me. I don't know about you, but I thought it was fantastic; was it good for you too... :)


Ummm......

Are non-flashy linemen inducted into the HOF? Of course. Monk should be in.

Darrell Green practically invented the super-fast shut-down corner. He should be a first ballot inductee. If he had switched teams or retired earlier, I could see him being overlooked for a couple years, but the longetivity, especially all with one team, should get him in his first year of eligibility.