Rock Cartwright returning?

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SFREDSKIN
12-22-2007, 07:05 PM
Tore what up? I don't recall him ever getting more than a handful of touches.

You obviously don't remember his performance as a 3rd string RB against Minnesota and SF in the playoffs back in 92 were he went back to back to back 100 yard games. I believe he went over 100 the last game of the season and then consecutive playoff games. They should have used him more than the 3rd down role.

skinsnut
12-22-2007, 10:51 PM
Rock is no Brian Mitchell either...as you recall...it was a close call that he even made the team this year.
I like Rock but...if he leaves, it could benefit the skins...cause then they'd draft a decent RB mid rounds....and that could be our eventual starter.
Rock will never be a starter...Betts shouldn't be one either, though it is close.
We need a young guy in the 3rd slot...someone with more potential than Rock.

steveo395
12-22-2007, 11:27 PM
Rock is no Brian Mitchell either...as you recall...it was a close call that he even made the team this year.
I like Rock but...if he leaves, it could benefit the skins...cause then they'd draft a decent RB mid rounds....and that could be our eventual starter.
Rock will never be a starter...Betts shouldn't be one either, though it is close.
We need a young guy in the 3rd slot...someone with more potential than Rock.
We still have Marcus Mason on the practice squad

That Guy
12-23-2007, 12:55 AM
Let's be real, Rock is no Jones-Drew, not even a 'poor man's Jones-Drew.'

I like Rock a lot & I hope we can keep him, but he's really fishing if he thinks he can get carries in the nfl. Rosenhaus is good at what he does & he will no doubt sell Rock's team first attitude, toughness & overall special teams ability. Some teams will pay a nice bonus to returners, but Rock isn't much at that either. the most you can say about his return ability is that he runs north - south. He lacks the explosiveness or moves to get yards when he doesn't have great blocks though.

As a RB, Rock is very avg., again he runs north-south & hard. Most teams can find better than Rock in the 4th-7th rounds if they're looking for a backup rb. Sad, but Rock is more valuable to us than anybody else. They should make a modest but fair offer.

um, he's a good kick returner... nothing average there (top 5-10 - check nfl.com's stats). he's just not a good option at running back (as anything besides a backup).

saden1
12-23-2007, 04:49 AM
Because MJD is better. Rock is a solid guy but looks like he wants to get overpaid. I hope it isn't us who do it.

I don't know, it's not like Rock gets the kinda chance MJD gets for us to say for sure. Plus the Jags have a very good o-line where as ours is almost always missing something. Maybe it's just me but Rock seems to have gotten faster, better at hanging on to the ball and has better vision than a few years ago.

WillH
01-17-2008, 10:35 PM
Cartwright Makes His Case (http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=3518)

Says pretty much the same thing. Interesting stats though:

REDSKINS ALL-TIME KICKOFF RETURNERS*
Name Returns Yards Average
Brian Mitchell 421 9,586 22.8
Mike Nelms 174 4,128 23.7
Dick James 155 3,959 25.5
Rock Cartwright 132 3,157 23.8
Rickie Harris 101 2,305 22.8

* Through the 2007 season

"With another season in Washington, Cartwright could jump into second place on the list, trailing only Mitchell.

Last season, Cartwright had 52 kickoff returns last year for a 25.8-yard average. He also played on special teams coverage units and had 36 tackles, second-most on the team."


He is clearly more then an average kick returner. Only Dick James averaged more yards/return as a redskin then he has. Not only that, he makes HUGE plays on kick coverge. I would hate to see him go, but he has made it clear he is looking for both an opportunity to run the ball, and for more money. Neither of which the Redskins can really offer him.

"I want to be here," Cartwright said. "I don't want to be anywhere else. But it's not up to me, it's up to the front office. I do have a family I need to take care of. That's the bottom line, so we'll see how it goes."

GridIron26
01-17-2008, 10:59 PM
Well yea, but just like someone just said - we still have Marcus Mason in our practice squad.. From what I have seen during preseasons, he did pretty well.. I don't see any reason why he could not accomplish as special team..

That Guy
01-18-2008, 12:26 AM
Well yea, but just like someone just said - we still have Marcus Mason in our practice squad.. From what I have seen during preseasons, he did pretty well.. I don't see any reason why he could not accomplish as special team..

and i don't see any proof that he could do nearly as well either.

if rock wants less than 1mill$ (hopefully vet min), he's worth keeping.

Skinny Tee
01-18-2008, 01:34 AM
Thanks for the memories Rock. The only paydays you'll get in D.C. are at your local convience mart.

Tha Posse
01-18-2008, 03:48 AM
"I DO HAVE A FAMILY TO TAKE CARE OF" kiss my ass! I think T.O. or someone said the same thing in philly when he wanted more money. SEE YA ROCK!

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