Has Todd Collins vindicated the Al Saunders offense?

The offense didn't need to be vindicated.

Agree...AS is a proven year after year offensive guru. His O's are consistently top 10 in the league. He doesn't need vindication. For whatever reason its clicking now.

The offense didn't need to be vindicated.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Saunders was on the hotseat prior to this run and he could have ended up being the scapegoat had we missed the playoffs.

Campbell cant make half the throws TC can. Campbell throws a good deep ball but thats about it. Campbell gets the ball out of his hands fast and can make the short, medium, and touch passes that Campbell cant. Also TC doesnt fumble because he doesnt hold the ball down by his hip to start his release. He moves so much faster than TC right now its amazing. I think this is the AS offense Gibbs thought he was getting and now that there is a QB that can run it good things are happening.

Uh, Collins had two fumbles yesterday, and has had three in four games, so I wouldn't exactly say he "doesn't fumble"? And saying that Campbell "can't" make the same throws as Collins is ridiculous. He wasn't making the throws before we was injured, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have the ability to make those throws.

Collins certainly has the timing figured out in Saunders offense better than Campbell, but the upside to Todd Collins is nonexistent. I agree with Brud's comments. Seeing Collins run the offense will help Campbell develop within Saunders' system.

Campbell is physically capable of making any throw, and his arm is definitely much stronger than Collins.

Collins however is proving that experience and the mental aspect of the game is so critical. In that aspect Collins as the advantage. In time we'll see if Campbell can get to that same level. He just needs more time and experience.

consider it vindicated.

Campbell is physically capable of making any throw, and his arm is definitely much stronger than Collins.

Collins however is proving that experience and the mental aspect of the game is so critical. In that aspect Collins as the advantage. In time we'll see if Campbell can get to that same level. He just needs more time and experience.

I agree that JC has the ability to make any throw, the problem is he doesnt make the medium, short & touch passes with any consistency. I still am convinced that that is because of his buggy whip delivery. Its too long & too loose.

Arm strength is important but I'll take a guy with a 50 cent arm and a million dollar head over a million dollar arm and a 50 cent head any day. You dont need a cannon arm (and/or lots of mobility) to be a very successful QB.

Not really. I mean Campbell was making all the same throws that Collins is. The difference is that Collins rarely turns the ball over, and has yet to be picked.

Strongly disagree with the first part of your comment. While Campbell has a much stronger arm and can gun the ball to receivers, he wasn't throwing in anticipation of where the receiver will be like TC has done. The timing with which TC is delivering those medium range passes is far superior to what Campbell has done. Campbell has a little way to go before he can run the offense like this.

yes. collins delivers the ball on time in al saunders timing pass offense. campbell would throw the ball when a player is open. collins throws the ball before the receiver is open to the pre-designed open area. also it seems that on the short to mid range passes campbell would throw it behind the receiver not allowing him to catch and run without breaking stride.

go skins!

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Saunders was on the hotseat prior to this run and he could have ended up being the scapegoat had we missed the playoffs.

His track record in KC and STL speaks for itself.

His track record in KC and STL speaks for itself.

Sure but that wouldn't have saved his job here.

These last 4 weeks has cemented Saunders job and has definitely validated the decision to bring him here.