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SFREDSKIN 01-08-2008, 11:41 AM Whats up your lovefest w/ Cam Cameron. Are you related to him?
No I'm not, I guess most of you all could have said the same thing about Gibbs when he was hired after being the OC of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers back in the 70's. Watch the offense of the team that hires him, if Garrett leaves the Cowboys and they hire him watch what he'll do.
JoeRedskin 01-08-2008, 11:43 AM That's stretching for a silver lining.
Agreed. But, hey, any boat in a storm.
mheisig 01-08-2008, 11:44 AM Laugh all you want about Cameron but that guy will be a winner. On another subject I wouldn't be surprised if Bugel also steps down. How do Gregg Williams and Al Saunders get along? Wasn't there some kind of distance between the O and D? How about ego's, if Williams gets the job who's to say Saunders won't step down cause he didn't get it?
I guess some people are just immune to reality.
:doh:
SmootSmack 01-08-2008, 11:54 AM I suspected something might be up when my call with Joe Gibbs Racing was cancelled today. And then one of my coworkers sent me an email early in the AM "What exactly is Gibbs going to advise the Redskins on?"
But...DAMN!! I really didn't see this coming. Resigning as HC doesn't completely surprise me but I thought for sure he'd be President still. The Wrong President Resigned :) (free sig, there for the taking)
Seriously though, I'm admittedly upset. Not with Gibbs, but just with the fact that he's gone sooner than expected. And for the second time we don't have the opportunity to prepare for it and give him a proper send off (farewell tour)? It's how he wants it I suppose, but it's a shame that we spent so much time dissecting every aspect of his performance (down to the most minute details), yet never really took the time-or had the opportunity to take the time-to appreciate that our team, our beloved Washington Redskins, were led by one of the true legends of all of sports. I think a lot of us have taken what we had in him for granted. And had he said "I'm back for one more year and that's it" then maybe we would have spent time thanking him. You can call for a change and an infusion of youth all you want, that's fine. But I don't think there is a single fan of the NFL who can deny or refuse to appreciate the impact he had on the team, the city, and the entire league.
At the same time, sometimes news like this just needs to hit you hard then you need to just rip it off like a band-aid instead of letting it linger.
Now, as to the future. I haven't heard much, all I know at this point is that he'll be a part owner/advisor. But the advisor part will be a bit more impactful than it sounds supposedly. Still he won't be in a day to day management capacity.
Now, why did he resign? Haven't heard much there either. A couple of things I have heard, he was tempted to resign last year after his grandson was diagnosed with leukemia. However, he was upset (angry?) at how the season went and how he and the team were perceived. So he wanted at least one more year to get them back to respectability. Then when Sean Taylor died, he started reevaluating things and wondering where his priorities were that he would pass up the chance to be with his real family to take care of the Redskins family. Something else I was told late last night some of his top assistants, not Saunders or Williams, but I did hear the name Bugel (don't know how true it is, my source on that one isn't reliable), weren't keen on coaching much longer and Gibbs wanted to leave with them. There's also another rumor that Snyder wasn't keen on giving some of those guys extensions like he supposedly was with Gibbs.
Anyhow, that's all I've heard so far...which is really not much. As always, if I hear anything I'll tell...some of you.
Honestly though, when the season began did anyone think if Gibbs resigned it would NOT be the biggest Redskins news of the year?
RIP Sean
tatrave 01-08-2008, 11:58 AM By Joe, you are forever a Redskin
Twilbert07 01-08-2008, 12:05 PM I am as deflated by the news today of Joe Gibbs' retirement as I was elated in 2004 when I read the first report that Joe Gibbs was coming back to coach the Skins. I'm glad we had him for four more years. Now we need to maintain the momentum he helped create late in the season. This is a sad day.
freddyg12 01-08-2008, 12:36 PM I suspected something might be up when my call with Joe Gibbs Racing was cancelled today. And then one of my coworkers sent me an email early in the AM "What exactly is Gibbs going to advise the Redskins on?"
But...DAMN!! I really didn't see this coming. Resigning as HC doesn't completely surprise me but I thought for sure he'd be President still. The Wrong President Resigned :) (free sig, there for the taking)
Seriously though, I'm admittedly upset. Not with Gibbs, but just with the fact that he's gone sooner than expected. And for the second time we don't have the opportunity to prepare for it and give him a proper send off (farewell tour)? It's how he wants it I suppose, but it's a shame that we spent so much time dissecting every aspect of his performance (down to the most minute details), yet never really took the time-or had the opportunity to take the time-to appreciate that our team, our beloved Washington Redskins, were led by one of the true legends of all of sports. I think a lot of us have taken what we had in him for granted. And had he said "I'm back for one more year and that's it" then maybe we would have spent time thanking him. You can call for a change and an infusion of youth all you want, that's fine. But I don't think there is a single fan of the NFL who can deny or refuse to appreciate the impact he had on the team, the city, and the entire league.
At the same time, sometimes news like this just needs to hit you hard then you need to just rip it off like a band-aid instead of letting it linger.
Now, as to the future. I haven't heard much, all I know at this point is that he'll be a part owner/advisor. But the advisor part will be a bit more impactful than it sounds supposedly. Still he won't be in a day to day management capacity.
Now, why did he resign? Haven't heard much there either. A couple of things I have heard, he was tempted to resign last year after his grandson was diagnosed with leukemia. However, he was upset (angry?) at how the season went and how he and the team were perceived. So he wanted at least one more year to get them back to respectability. Then when Sean Taylor died, he started reevaluating things and wondering where his priorities were that he would pass up the chance to be with his real family to take care of the Redskins family. Something else I was told late last night some of his top assistants, not Saunders or Williams, but I did hear the name Bugel (don't know how true it is, my source on that one isn't reliable), weren't keen on coaching much longer and Gibbs wanted to leave with them. There's also another rumor that Snyder wasn't keen on giving some of those guys extensions like he supposedly was with Gibbs.
Anyhow, that's all I've heard so far...which is really not much. As always, if I hear anything I'll tell...some of you.
Honestly though, when the season began did anyone think if Gibbs resigned it would NOT be the biggest Redskins news of the year?
RIP Sean
Good info Smoot. all sounds realistic, especially the bit about Snyder not wanting to extend Bugel et al. If true, that may have given Joe the out he needed, or the final straw in making his decision. Not saying it all came down to that, but combined w/other factors, I can see how he would see it's his time to go if Buges and Breaux were leaving too.
skinsnut 01-08-2008, 12:54 PM Cam has free time now.
I bet this IS him.
He's probably registered on Ravens and Falcons forums too.
Very Funny!!
Welcome to the forum Cam!
Sorry about your job
jsarno 01-08-2008, 12:57 PM My heart LITERALLY just sank !
This about says it all.
It was one of those tidbits of news that you read and suddenly it feels like someone threw a boulder on you or something. I guess I knew it was a possibility, but I really thought he would stick around.
jsarno 01-08-2008, 01:01 PM Just when you thought you couldn't get any lower.
First there was all those injuries, then the losing streak, then the loss of Taylor...finally the ship had turned and we went to playoffs only to lose to, what I feel, was an inferior team, and now this.
Excuse me while I go to the corner for a while and cry.
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