The case against Cowher

Cowher was not universally loved by the team. He was being tuned out by most in his next to last season and in his last season it was Bettis, not Cowher, that everyone listened to.

BTW, Too is not the same as to.

The only issue I have heard at all was about Roethlisberger not thinking Cowher was opening up the offense for him. I don't buy that "everyone was listening to Bettis" nonsense. Bettis was a running back, not a coach. To suggest otherwise is not logical.

and regarding "too=to" you're missing the whole point.

i think you guys have hit it. i really do not want to see a new staff come in here. so you pay cowher $10M/year?

i think it'd be really easy to take three years, get us nowhere, and be $30M richer as we go into yet another rebuilding stage.

obviously i'll cheer for whatever happens, but we really need to keep our current coaches and players around for the most part. at least give them two years.

The only issue I have heard at all was about Roethlisberger not thinking Cowher was opening up the offense for him. I don't buy that "everyone was listening to Bettis" nonsense. Bettis was a running back, not a coach. To suggest otherwise is not logical.

and regarding "too=to" you're missing the whole point.

I am only telling you what my Pgh connections told me. Bettis was the motivator and person the team rallied around, not Cowher.

I am only telling you what my Pgh connections told me. Bettis was the motivator and person the team rallied around, not Cowher.

I'm not calling you a liar, I just think alot of that came after the fact. I do believe that Bettis probably did have a big leadership role for a player on the team. That said, you can't take the HC's credit away for a super bowl winning season and say it was due to a running back's locker room influence. My opinion.

I'm not calling you a liar, I just think alot of that came after the fact. I do believe that Bettis probably did have a big leadership role for a player on the team. That said, you can't take the HC's credit away for a super bowl winning season and say it was due to a running back's locker room influence. My opinion.

I was being told that stuff after the first playoff game not after the Super Bowl win. I think Cowher did a good job with all the football stuff but his style grates on players and eventually they just get sick of it and tune him out.

I agree. Not sure where I heard it ( i think it was on the barber shop on Sirius) but I think Ronde Barber was talking about limitations on how long a coach can be effective. There's only so long you can hear the same thing over and over before you start tuning it out. That's human nature. I'm sure it applies to just about any coach.

Cowher won't coach here b/c of the FO structure. He is a Marty guy and guess what Marty left b/c of lack of control. I don't think it will happen. FWIW i think Cowher is a great coach. It's not easy to get in the playoffs virtually every year.

I hope we don't bring in a college coach...PLEASE NO. Pete Carroll included. I don't know if anyone remembers it, but PC didn't do to well in the NFL the first time. I'm not against 2nd chances but please no college coaches.

My only vote is for GW.

Just to make my opinion clear again, I want GW as head coach.

However, I do fear the Danny's courting Cowher. You use Marty as an example, but remember that Marty said he'd "never" work for Snyder, then lo & behold he's in skins gear.

Cowher might want total control, but that doesn't mean he can't be sold on the idea of working in the committee w/Dan & Vinny on personel.

While I agree w/most assessments here about the fo structure, players, cap & how Cowher wouldn't be a good fit, I think you have to at least concede that if the Danny has Cowher in mind, he'll do whatever he can to get him here. That scares me & I hope he thinks it through enough to realize that Gibbs has built a foundation that could easily crumble if you bring in the wrong guy, or for that matter bringing in anyone rather than hiring GW.

Personally I would rather the Redskins hire GW, and while there may be some speculation as to who truly deserves the credit for the Steeler's Super Bowl victory, I think we're downplaying Cowher's accomplishments as a head coach. We can critize him for hanging on to Stewart too long, among other things, but to suggest that he has been anything but a consistent winner over the course of his career is simply incorrect. There have been comments made that suggest winning the Super Bowl was the only thing he's ever done. In his 15 seasons of head coaching, he won 8 division championships and 2 conference championships. He took his team to the Conference championship SIX times in 15 seasons. That's more times than Gibbs, Belichick and Parcells. It's hard to suggest that his plethora of division titles were a result of a weak division, in light of the fact that he consistently took his teams deep into the playoffs.

I'd prefer to have GW, but I certainly wouldn't be upset with Cowher.

Cowher is definitely a no...I believe that GW is definitely the next in line and here's why:

If you recall, I believe after the 2004 season ended a couple teams (can't recall who) were after GW for a head coaching job. These offers were not entertained and GW stated that he wanted to stay here in Washington. There was speculation that GW was
"promised" the HC position when Gibbs stepped down... Now everyone seem concerned that Al S. will get p-turbed and leave if GW gets the HC job but if this was all ironed out prior to Al S. stepping in… then there is "no issue”.

Coach Gibbs objective from day 1 of the GibbsII campaign was to return this team to the greatness it once was. I definitely feel we are on the right path and do you really think for once second that coach Gibbs would walk away from all his hard work only to have it torn apart by someone other than who he trusts and knows and has work closely with for that past 4 years???? Do you really think for once second that coach Gibbs would walk away from all his hard work without having a solid plan, ready to be executed at a moments notice??? If coach Gibbs walks away from this team and leaves it in shambles his character is completely tarnished!!! No brainer man... Gregg Williams is the next Head Coach of the Washington Redskins and I honestly believe that we won't skip a beat... Can’t wait for 2008!!!! GO SKINS!

I''l be mildly surprised if Cowher is ever our head coach. Even a bit more surprised if Williams isn't offered the job. He could decline it, of course. #1 on my list is Williams.
#2 is Russ Grimm. I do like the security blanket idea of bringing in a former Skins player with a plenty of coaching experience in today's NFL. However, by bringing in Grimm are we destined to use his own legacy against him, too?