Chargers and Norv

Everyone wants to say Marty is a choker because he's never made it to the Super Bowl, yet no one considers a.) crazy circumstances (except skinsfan69 apparently) such as the Byner fumble or the drive, b.) that he overachieves with limited talent. Should he be declared a choker for not winning a championship or one of the better coaches for getting his team that far?

I watched Marty since he was with Cleveland, I actually thought he was a pretty coach and rooted for him. Then I noticed his conservative style (afraid to go for the kill) and lose. Yes, he had some bad luck, but he also was way to conservative. He broke my heart too many times to the point where I can't stand him now.

Ok. 5-13 in the playoffs, HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

So let me ask you this. Who do you think is a better HEAD COACH? Norv or Marty?

Also, if you were to ask all of the SD players who would they rather have as a head coach, I would be willing to bet any amount of $ that 90% of the players would say Marty.

Everyone wants to say Marty is a choker because he's never made it to the Super Bowl, yet no one considers a.) crazy circumstances (except skinsfan69 apparently) such as the Byner fumble or the drive, b.) that he overachieves with limited talent. Not to mention all the byes he earned.

Should he be declared a choker for not winning a championship or one of the better coaches for getting his team that far?

Limited talent????? I whole heartedly disagree with you there.
I have never called him a choker, my thoughts about him is he doesn't know how to step up in the playoffs. He is too arrogant to mix things up and try new things and the teams he plays are prepared for his teams. You have to ask yourself why the team is so dominant during the season then they suck in the postseason. It's not cause he overachieves, but it is cause he underachieves in the postseason, when it counts.
Again I say, there were more missed chances in that Byner fumble game...the one play does not define a coach, nor can be pointed to in an excuse to say he's a good postseason coach.

I watched Marty since he was with Cleveland, I actually thought he was a pretty coach and rooted for him. Then I noticed his conservative style (afraid to go for the kill) and lose. Yes, he had some bad luck, but he also was way to conservative. He broke my heart too many times to the point where I can't stand him now.

I will agree with you on his conservative style. But you could also say this about Gibbs 2.

I watched Marty since he was with Cleveland, I actually thought he was a pretty coach and rooted for him. Then I noticed his conservative style (afraid to go for the kill) and lose. Yes, he had some bad luck, but he also was way to conservative. He broke my heart too many times to the point where I can't stand him now.

Wow! Well, I never considered that :)

So let me ask you this. Who do you think is a better HEAD COACH? Norv or Marty?

Also, if you were to ask all of the SD players who would they rather have as a head coach, I would be willing to bet any amount of $ that 90% of the players would say Marty.

I know you're not talking to me, but I want to make myself clear by saying Marty is.

So let me ask you this. Who do you think is a better HEAD COACH? Norv or Marty?

Also, if you were to ask all of the SD players who would they rather have as a head coach, I would be willing to bet any amount of $ that 90% of the players would say Marty.

I would take Norv because of his offensive mind.

I watched Marty since he was with Cleveland, [bI actually thought he was a pretty coach[/b] and rooted for him. Then I noticed his conservative style (afraid to go for the kill) and lose. Yes, he had some bad luck, but he also was way to conservative. He broke my heart too many times to the point where I can't stand him now.

I agree with you minus the pretty part...he's rather ugly. :D

Limited talent????? I whole heartedly disagree with you there.
I have never called him a choker, my thoughts about him is he doesn't know how to step up in the playoffs. He is too arrogant to mix things up and try new things and the teams he plays are prepared for his teams. You have to ask yourself why the team is so dominant during the season then they suck in the postseason. It's not cause he overachieves, but it is cause he underachieves in the postseason, when it counts.
Again I say, there were more missed chances in that Byner fumble game...the one play does not define a coach, nor can be pointed to in an excuse to say he's a good postseason coach.

I'm not sure I ever said you called him a choker. If so, I apologize. SF called him a choker and I'm just saying, well to say he's a choker because of his post-season record is a fairly myopic way of seeing things.

And credit has to be given to the Broncos in that game. Both teams played great. Seems kind of ridiculous for anyone to blame Schottenheimer for that loss.

I would take Norv because of his offensive mind.

You also said you wanted Cam Cameron to coach the Redskins. ;)

Between the two, I'd definitely take Marty for two reasons:
1. He knows how to build winning teams
2. He demands respect of his players

He's biggest knock is not going to or winning a Super Bowl, but he's a better HC than Norv.