Do we have anyone we can off-load for Picks.

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onlydarksets
01-18-2008, 10:04 AM
lol - we'd be lucky to get an 8th round pick for Brunell.

backrow
01-18-2008, 10:06 AM
lol - we'd be lucky to get an 8th round pick for Brunell.

LOL! Maybe the 21st round!

SC Skins Fan
01-18-2008, 10:09 AM
lol - we'd be lucky to get an 8th round pick for Brunell.

If we could just trade him to ourselves I bet we could get a 3rd ... :)

onlydarksets
01-18-2008, 10:12 AM
If we could just trade him to ourselves I bet we could get a 3rd ... :)

That is funny (because it's true).

Skinny Tee
01-18-2008, 10:21 AM
I know that I"m not very strong with stats, and cap talk and all that, but do you think we have anyone we could trade off for draft picks? Since the FO seems to have backed off the "lets build a team through Free agency", would it be possible to make some trades for picks, instead of us giving ours away?

This isn't Madden. You can't get swing players around and get draft picks like you're in dynasty mode.

The stuff rarely happens unless its done on draft day.

freddyg12
01-18-2008, 01:30 PM
There are a couple deals that could come up near or on draft day. Just like last year w/the briggs for Rocky & #6 pick that never happened. I could see the tuna offering the #1 for our #21 + a player (actually Rocky might draw some interest if he's healing well).

The problem is that we have a rep for trading up & not trading back to get more picks. With the draft chart points that the nfl has, most teams seem to value their picks more too. At least we are at a place in the draft at #21 where some teams will trade their 2nd round pick to move up if they like a player a lot. It would be sweet to see the Skins get an extra pick or two, even if it's for the following year.

Schneed10
01-18-2008, 01:42 PM
We could theoretically trade the following players, and at the same time get cap relief by offloading their contracts:

Shawn Springs
Cornelius Griffin
Marcus Washington
Casey Rabach
Phillip Daniels
Todd Wade
Pete Kendall
Ladell Betts
James Thrash
Mike Sellers
Demetric Evans
Rocky McIntosh
Todd Yoder
Khary Campbell

Every other player is either a free agent (you can't trade a guy not signed) or would cost us cap space to trade away.

As I look at the list above, most of those guys are direly needed on this team (Marcus Washington, Casey Rabach, Mike Sellers, Cornelius Griffin, Rocky McIntosh) or wouldn't yield jack squat in a trade (Khary Campbell, Todd Wade, James Thrash).

It's not likely we'll trade anybody away.

Bill B
01-18-2008, 02:58 PM
We could theoretically trade the following players, and at the same time get cap relief by offloading their contracts:

Shawn Springs
Cornelius Griffin
Marcus Washington
Casey Rabach
Phillip Daniels
Todd Wade
Pete Kendall
Ladell Betts
James Thrash
Mike Sellers
Demetric Evans
Rocky McIntosh
Todd Yoder
Khary Campbell

Every other player is either a free agent (you can't trade a guy not signed) or would cost us cap space to trade away.

As I look at the list above, most of those guys are direly needed on this team (Marcus Washington, Casey Rabach, Mike Sellers, Cornelius Griffin, Rocky McIntosh) or wouldn't yield jack squat in a trade (Khary Campbell, Todd Wade, James Thrash).

It's not likely we'll trade anybody away.

Schneed I would add that most teams in the NFL that have good GM's would probably stay away from the Redskins I put in bold due to their contract size (unless the team acquiring the player was able to renegotiate the contract beforehand).

I think the only other name that could garner any compensation is Rocky and Sellers, but Rocky's injuries would limit what we could get for him right now and Sellers is too valuable to the Skins to consider trading.

My take is I don't see the Skins trading anyone unless some team out there can be duped into taking Brandon Llyod - if we could score a coup like we did in the Adam Archuleta deal that would be great, but I don't see any team out there gunning for Llyod like the Bears Lovie Smith wanting Adam.

Bill B
01-18-2008, 03:24 PM
There are a couple deals that could come up near or on draft day. Just like last year w/the briggs for Rocky & #6 pick that never happened. I could see the tuna offering the #1 for our #21 + a player (actually Rocky might draw some interest if he's healing well).

The problem is that we have a rep for trading up & not trading back to get more picks. With the draft chart points that the nfl has, most teams seem to value their picks more too. At least we are at a place in the draft at #21 where some teams will trade their 2nd round pick to move up if they like a player a lot. It would be sweet to see the Skins get an extra pick or two, even if it's for the following year.

That would be awesome if they could trade down - but like you said most teams covet picks and don't like to trade up. Plus there are a lot of teams that have owners that don't like to fork out massive signing bonuses, so finding any takers to trade down with is all the more difficult - I think a lot of us forget that Dan Synder and Jerry Jones are the rare cases of an owner willing to spend anything to win - if you go to places like Minnesota and other small market cities you'll find owners that either can't or are unwilling to spend the cash to make deals work.

That Guy
01-18-2008, 08:51 PM
everyone's trade value is lower than their usefulness to us, so the answer is no, not really.

betts was worth a LOT more last offseason after that great second half, but now his value's back down again. The only real value we could get is for campbell, but that'd be pretty bloody stupid.

meanwhile:
patrick ramsey for A.O. (chi DE)... OOPS!
mcintosh for lance briggs (chi LB)... oops.

so, i'd say our ownership overvalues its unproven players a bit too much.

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