SmootSmack
01-23-2008, 02:11 PM
This is good stuff guys, I'm learning a lot. And I hope others are too.
I tend to believe that McCain has the best plan. I think, as Schneed has said, just saying you want universal coverage isn't enough and rolling back the tax cuts would do more harm than good.
cpayne5
01-23-2008, 03:11 PM
It would have been interesting for us if you hadn't put names next to the plans and let us pick blindly (without bias?). May have been eye opening to some.
SmootSmack
01-23-2008, 03:15 PM
It would have been interesting for us if you hadn't put names next to the plans and let us pick blindly (without bias?). May have been eye opening to some.
I wanted to do that, and probably will with future issues. But there was just so much more information than the bullet points I presented that I felt I was going to have to link somewhere.
Next time you and I can create a page that has all the platforms but no names.
mheisig
01-23-2008, 03:25 PM
Why is John Edwards in there twice?
mheisig
01-23-2008, 03:31 PM
John McCain's is by far the best. Though for my employer, the biggest provider of free and underreimbursed care in Pennsylvania, a Democrat would be the best for our financials. But John McCain is the only candidate who addresses the root causes for why healthcare is so expensive.
All of the Democrats are simply trying to find a way to get everybody in the US coverage. A noble cause, but it does nothing to address the factors driving the high growth in health care costs.
First, making plans portable across state lines increases competition amongst hospitals. All of a sudden Cooper University Hospital in South Jersey has to compete with places like the Hospital of University of Pennsylvania, and Jefferson University Hospital for patients. Plus, HMOs now have increased competition from each other as consumers can opt for plans from other states.
Compensating providers based on quality is a movement already taking place in the commercial insurance world. Independence Blue Cross and Aetna here in Philadelphia are already driving pay-for-performance. In other words, if your hospital shows above average mortality rates, rates of unplanned-return-to-surgery, and other quality metrics, then you get a bigger rate increase from the insurers. McCain is the ONLY CANDIDATE that wants to put this in place for government payers Medicare and Medicaid. Keep in mind, Medicare and Medicaid are responsible for a huge portion of payments to providers, so until they begin using pay-for-performance, the healthcare industry will not take quality seriously.
And one of the biggest reasons why healthcare costs have been increasing so rapidly in this counrty is the increase in pharmaceuticals. There are more drugs than ever before, and they all come with patents. McCain is suggesting to make it easier for generics to compete with patented drugs, and increasing price competition through importation. Without these moves, there will be no market factors in place to stop the momentum behind the unstoppable growth in drug prices.
I work in the Financial Planning department of a major metropolitan academic healthcare center. We treat a TON of medicaid patients. A democrat would definitely be best for my employer (they'd essentially just boost payments to us), McCain is by far the best for the country. He's the only candidate who truly rolls up his sleeves, gets his hands dirty, and digs into the issues to truly understand them.
I'm with you on McCain's healthcare plan. I actually read through all the bullet points trying not to look at the names and ended up liking McCain's, which is odd considering I'm not a real big fan of his.
SmootSmack
01-23-2008, 03:31 PM
Why is John Edwards in there twice?
typo. thanks for the catch
mheisig
01-23-2008, 03:36 PM
typo. thanks for the catch
I thought you were just really trying to push Edwards as the right candidate ;)
DynamiteRave
01-23-2008, 04:10 PM
Why is John Edwards in there twice?
Well since I'm an idiot and I responded to something that was already answered an hour ago....
:bump:
DynamiteRave
01-23-2008, 04:12 PM
Nobody's voted for Guliani! Where's the love?
firstdown
01-23-2008, 05:57 PM
You know I always hear these nightmares about health ins. co and trying to get stuff covered but I have never had an issue with any of them. I my daughter while at college came down with this rare blood disorder (she is just fine now) the doctors tried several things and nothing worked. They decided to give this one treatment through I/V which cost $5,000 per bag and forgot to get approval from the ins. co.. They sent a rejection letter back for a claim of $36,000 because the doctor did not get prior approval and this was still in the exspermental stage. Doctor wrote them back and paid the bill in full.