Please Calm Down:

I really wanted Williams as much if not more than every person here. I'm not a fan of Fassel, but I do like the hire of Zorn, Blache staying on is great, and our HC might not be as terrible as we think. Unfortunately, none of us know went on behind closed doors. I think it's premature to blame Snyder without knowing what even happened.

The bottom line is -- if we're in the playoffs next year, everyone will forget about this. Winning solves a lot of problems.

Snyder won't be selling the team, nor is there anything you personally can do to make that happen. I'll even say this, Snyder will win at least one Super Bowl.

I really don't think Snyder will ever win a Super Bowl, and I'm going on record with that. I know the mods will claim I'm irrational and mock me mercilessly, but frankly, I really don't WANT Snyder to win one anymore, either. I don't think he deserves it, and I'm a big believer in karma.

I think you're right that most fans are fairly fickle and will forgive a lot if the team starts winning. I won't be one of them, though. I was really happy with the team's growth the past 4 years and truly thought Snyder had changed. I was wrong.

For my money, the events of the past month and especially how the last week or so has gone down has really helped me understand why Joe must have wanted to leave. Compare the venom that's coming out of Redskins Park with the words Joe speaks on his weekly video broadcast and it's just night and day.

It sucks to have your loyalty to your team tested by something like this. Know I understand how Raiders, Knicks, and Orioles fans feel. And I don't like it.

I really don't think Snyder will ever win a Super Bowl, and I'm going on record with that. I know the mods will claim I'm irrational and mock me mercilessly, but frankly, I really don't WANT Snyder to win one anymore, either. I don't think he deserves it, and I'm a big believer in karma.

I think you're right that most fans are fairly fickle and will forgive a lot if the team starts winning. I won't be one of them, though. I was really happy with the team's growth the past 4 years and truly thought Snyder had changed. I was wrong.

For my money, the events of the past month and especially how the last week or so has gone down has really helped me understand why Joe must have wanted to leave. Compare the venom that's coming out of Redskins Park with the words Joe speaks on his weekly video broadcast and it's just night and day.

It sucks to have your loyalty to your team tested by something like this. Know I understand how Raiders, Knicks, and Orioles fans feel. And I don't like it.That's pretty irrational. What makes you think Snyder hasn't changed?

Is it because he didn't feel that the title of head coach of the Redskins was something that Williams wasn't owed via birth right? Is that not learning?

Continuity is NOT something a franchise strives for, it's something that's bred out of sustained success with common personnel.

Continuity is a great thing, and an indicator of great things, but it's an impossible ideal when your head coach retires. There's no such thing as continuity when that happens, and rather than chase an unrealistic ideal, Snyder has a far more important task: choose the best candidate for the job.

I think the notion that Gregg Williams was the only right choice for the job is downright ridiculous, and that while Snyder may have treated him improperly given his service here, Snyder is neither a bad man, nor incorrect in his methodology for going a different route.

The team grew over the last 4 seasons, and will likely continue to grow over the next 4 under someone new. I'm really not seeing why that is such a terrible thing.

That's pretty irrational. What makes you think Snyder hasn't changed?

Is it because he didn't feel that the title of head coach of the Redskins was something that Williams wasn't owed via birth right? Is that not learning?

Continuity is NOT something a franchise strives for, it's something that's bred out of sustained success with common personnel.

Continuity is a great thing, and an indicator of great things, but it's an impossible ideal when your head coach retires. There's no such thing as continuity when that happens, and rather than chase an unrealistic ideal, Snyder has a far more important task: choose the best candidate for the job.

I think the notion that Gregg Williams was the only right choice for the job is downright ridiculous, and that while Snyder may have treated him improperly given his service here, Snyder is neither a bad man, nor incorrect in his methodology for going a different route.

The team grew over the last 4 seasons, and will likely continue to grow over the next 4 under someone new. I'm really not seeing why that is such a terrible thing.

Yeah, I do agree with Snyder being thorough in this process. However, I think that it is hard for most people to get over the fact that the fans, players, and Gibbs himself supported Williams privately. We were a playoff team last year, despite injuries, that leaned heavy on the defense. How can you not at least give Williams a one year try out when so many other people are supporting him? It just looks wrong in the same way San Diego firing Marty S. looked wrong.

I wouldn't expect GW to be given Gibbs-like authority, but, a head coach should be able to assemble his own staff. DS and VC have removed that option for any new HC willing to accept the Skins job. This is a shot across the bow of any incoming head man. The message is clear, DS and VC will dabble and play as if professional sports team management is a board game.

I mean really, Vinny as Executive VP?! He brought in Trung Canidate for crying out lound. The Times is reporting one NFL executive actually laughed when told VC would be The Guy.

Now, what decent coach worth his weight will want to enter into the equation under these terms?

Many professional sports franchises have owners who honestly dont care about winning and make no effort to do so. Daniel Snyder is not one of them. He may not always make the best decisions or the smartest ones from a fans perspective but we could have alot worse then Daniel Snyder as the owner of the Skin's.

George Steinbrenner didn't find a winning formula for his money and desire to win for a number of years but eventually he made the Yankee's(whom I hate btw) into yearly contenders. You may not like the way he has gotten it done but there is no arguing with his track record. He wins becuse he cares and is willing to spend the money to get the job done. Football is different because of the salary cap but it's pretty obvious that if you are willing to spend the money there are ways around the cap. If Jerry jones can win Super Bowls Danile Snyder will too.

If Snyder is taking his time to make the right choices here rather then the quick ones or the ones the fans are screaming for he is doing exactly what he should be doing. Fans didn't want Joe Gibbs to be the Skin's head coach the first time around but it worked out okay I think.

It's more important to pick the right guy then make a quick pick to appease an impatient and angry fanbase.

If this team is a SuperBowl contender a couple of years from now everybody will be singing the praises of Daniel Snyder. We could do one heck of alot worse then a guy who wants to win and is willing to spend whatever it takes to do so. Eventually he will find the right formula for the Skin's. I have little doubt about that.

I wouldn't expect GW to be given Gibbs-like authority, but, a head coach should be able to assemble his own staff. DS and VC have removed that option for any new HC willing to accept the Skins job. This is a shot across the bow of any incoming head man. The message is clear, DS and VC will dabble and play as if professional sports team management is a board game.

I mean really, Vinny as Executive VP?! He brought in Trung Canidate for crying out lound. The Times is reporting one NFL executive actually laughed when told VC would be The Guy.

Now, what decent coach worth his weight will want to enter into the equation under these terms?
For all we know that NFL executive could be Matt Millen, I wouldn't give too much stock in that quote. Also, it was Spurrier who thought Trung Candidate would be a viable feature back in the NFL and at the time the move was appluaded by many in the league.

Wilbon said in an article the other day that the Redskins would be better off personnel wise if they had listened to some of his suggestions recently. Vinny's being judged by 2000's free agent debacle.. I'm willing to give him a couple of years of being 'the guy' to see if he's the man for the job.

If anyone really thinks that Fassel (or whoever the coach will be, but I'm pretty sure it's Fassel) wasn't involved or consulted in the assembly of the staff they're fooling themselves. That's why Spags isn't a legit candidate in my mind because he's been outside the loop.

pulled for the skina all my life,always will.but i am convinced that they will never be in serious contention but laughing stock of the league as long as dan snyder owns the team.
they may make the playoffs,but anybody can see snyder id'nt learn 1 thing from gibbs.
remember how dallas looked in the last days of landry?get used to it because the skins will be even worse those cowboys teams were.snyder is beginning to make al davis look like a
shining star based on how he runs his team!

I really don't think Snyder will ever win a Super Bowl, and I'm going on record with that. I know the mods will claim I'm irrational and mock me mercilessly, but frankly, I really don't WANT Snyder to win one anymore, either. I don't think he deserves it, and I'm a big believer in karma.

I think you're right that most fans are fairly fickle and will forgive a lot if the team starts winning. I won't be one of them, though. I was really happy with the team's growth the past 4 years and truly thought Snyder had changed. I was wrong.

For my money, the events of the past month and especially how the last week or so has gone down has really helped me understand why Joe must have wanted to leave. Compare the venom that's coming out of Redskins Park with the words Joe speaks on his weekly video broadcast and it's just night and day.

It sucks to have your loyalty to your team tested by something like this. Know I understand how Raiders, Knicks, and Orioles fans feel. And I don't like it.
So if you don't want the team to win does that mean your jumping ship to another team or does it mean you will put on your skins jersey on Sundays and cheer for the other team?

So if you don't want the team to win does that mean your jumping ship to another team or does it mean you will put on your skins jersey on Sundays and cheer for the other team?

It's not that I don't want the team to win. It's that I really, really don't think Snyder deserves any success. I hate the idea that our players could work hard and earn a victory and Snyder's rewarded for what I view as bad management decisions.

Like a few others here, I'm conflicted and really don't know the best way to deal with it :/