SmootSmack
01-25-2008, 06:30 PM
This means a defensive minded head coach, or a "West Coast" guy who likes Zorn will be our head coach.
So GW, Fassel, and ?
George Seifert! :)
So GW, Fassel, and ?
George Seifert! :)
Zorn becomes SKINS new OC.SmootSmack 01-25-2008, 06:30 PM This means a defensive minded head coach, or a "West Coast" guy who likes Zorn will be our head coach. So GW, Fassel, and ? George Seifert! :) MTK 01-25-2008, 06:42 PM Saunders didn't do much of anything here anyway, the first year was a disaster and the offense was actually worse in year 2 in terms of overall ranking. I saw this move coming from a mile away. I just didn't see Saunders lasting another year here, even if Gibbs came back. Zorn could be a very good mentor for JC. MTK 01-25-2008, 06:43 PM The funny thing is this move still tells us nothing about the potential HC since GW and Fassel reportedly were both high on Zorn. redsk1 01-25-2008, 06:45 PM A couple of thoughts: I guess an offensive coach is not going to be hired b/c they'd bring in their own system Why would we hire an o coord before a hc? Might be a wink/wink deal w/ Spagnuolo. dirthogs311 01-25-2008, 06:52 PM its obvious this move means that its gonna either be GW or Fossil, both have given Snyder and Cerrato an OK with Zorn redsk1 01-25-2008, 06:54 PM I know JF and GW think alot of Zorn, but if it was one of them why wouldn't they be hired already. Longtimefan 01-25-2008, 06:57 PM I'm just saying maybe Gibbs at some point during the year asked him. Or maybe Campbell said, or maybe it was just apparent that for him (and for everyone else) they were more comfortable with a system more similar to Musgrave's (and Zorn's and the dude who coached Campbell in college. I know, I know. College doesn't count, right?) than Saunders'. I mean I don't know how much clearer I can be that Saunders, in my opinion, earned the right to get at least one more year here. And whether he's comfortable or not now, I have no doubt Campbell is fully capable of eventually mastering the offense. But we can sit here and bitch about it and have post after post of how stupid it all is, or try to make some sense out of it. Much to the disbelief of many of you, Redskins Park isn't filled with mindless idiots who put no thought or consideration into anything. It has been said that many within the organization were just not satisfied with Al's offense, and even if Gibbs had decided to return, Al's situation still could have been in jepordy. There were many here on this board who thought when Gibbs brought Al aboard, it was not a good idea. Watching the team not being able to score in the second half against the Giants after leading 17-3 at the half, and then loosing four games in a row because the offense apeared so dysfunctional didn't sit so well at Redskin Park. That, coupled with all the other close losses due to ineffective offense, obviously they felt perhaps a change was needed. There certainly were times during the course of the season when I wasn't satisfied with the offense either. WillH 01-25-2008, 06:59 PM Saunders didn't do much of anything here anyway, the first year was a disaster and the offense was actually worse in year 2 in terms of overall ranking. I saw this move coming from a mile away. I just didn't see Saunders lasting another year here, even if Gibbs came back. Zorn could be a very good mentor for JC. Yeah I remember you calling this and I contended that it would be stupid to let Saunders go, so kudos and all that. I think Saunders deserved at least another year, but if the organization as a whole had their doubts about him I guess it makes more sense to clean house once, and not re-adjust things once more next year if things didn't pan out. My biggest concern was about the development of JC, and it seems there could be no better option then Zorn to step in, in this situation. In one of the articles posted Hasselback apparently give this guy alot of credit especially helping him through hard times. So good, great! I'm not thrilled Saunders is gone, but I like the move to get Zorn. Lets hope the players can get behind this guy; he has no prior experience so it might be tough to convince guys of what he is doing, but our guys dont seem to be very high maintainence. So we'll see. I agree its strange to hire an OC before HC, but I am sure that suggests their is something in the works already. redsk1 01-25-2008, 07:08 PM I still don't understand the FO hiring Zorn unless they already have a HC. The HC is supposed to hire their staff!!! Maybe this will iron itself out, but i don't quite understand this move. With all this, I still don't understand why the FO is intent on getting rid of Al Saunders, who's history, is one of an annual top 5 or 10 offense. It's clear that the Redskins talent is mediocre not the coaching. I don't think DS or VC can see this thru their burgundy colored glasses. Al Saunders is a great O coach. Sad to see him go. Why do we now wait for Spagnuola to interview? If he's hired he might not want Zorn unless it's already been spoken about. As Chris Landry said on the radio...as he laughed...it starts at the top and right now we need a football guy to make football decisions. He stated that the problem isn't our coaches b/c right now we have some of the best coaches in the league. Talent wise we're still somewhere around average. How true. It looks like DS's making the decisions not a football guy. Sorry to be so negative, Zorn, from what I've heard is pretty impressive/hard working guy. He could turn out to be good. I just don't agree w/ hiring a staff before a HC. I also don't think alot of guys are better than Al Saunders. If so, i'd challenge anyone to name them. redwagonskins 01-25-2008, 07:10 PM I have to think that there is no way the HC has not already been chosen. They may not have a contract yet but anything else doesn't make sense (and don't throw me the Jason Garrett line - he came up through their organization and there was considerable interest in him last year as well). Two things lead me to this thought: 1. why would anyone take a job where they don't know who their boss is going to be? The devil you know is better than the devil you don't. 2. What HC would come into a situation where his staff has been picked for him? Talk about a recipe for disaster. |
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