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Dirtbag59 01-28-2008, 07:10 PM When I first saw this thread I thought you were making a case for some draft prospect named Josh McDaniels. I mean to me the guy is known as the Patriots O-Coordinator. Anyway I think there to many factors working against this.
1. The guy is old enough to be a player
2. The hire wouldn't really be the "sexy" kind of hire that Snyder is known for.
3. As someone pointed out Bellicheck would probably advise McDaniels against taking the Redskin job
4. You already got Zorn and on that note the HC would have to mesh with Zorn in terms of offensive phillosophy (Fassel and Mooch).
and on a personal note I don't rush the gun to call a guy an offensive genius that has had the type of pieces that McDaniels has had to work with especially when hes only been working as a coordinator for two years and an offensive coach for 4.
IggyG 01-28-2008, 07:59 PM When I first saw this thread I thought you were making a case for some draft prospect named Josh McDaniels. I mean to me the guy is known as the Patriots O-Coordinator. Anyway I think there to many factors working against this.
1. The guy is old enough to be a player
2. The hire wouldn't really be the "sexy" kind of hire that Snyder is known for.
3. As someone pointed out Bellicheck would probably advise McDaniels against taking the Redskin job
4. You already got Zorn and on that note the HC would have to mesh with Zorn in terms of offensive phillosophy (Fassel and Mooch).
and on a personal note I don't rush the gun to call a guy an offensive genius that has had the type of pieces that McDaniels has had to work with especially when hes only been working as a coordinator for two years and an offensive coach for 4.
no offense to the case your making but your basically saying that if the Patriots win the Superbowl that McDaniels wouldn't be a "sexy" hire? C'Mon, and Fassell is? I understand that the Patriots have great offensive targets on the field for Tom Brady but look at last year and the previous year. I wouldn't say their offense sucked. Del Rio, Gruden were both young when they started and looked how they helped turn their franchises around. And last, I was just stating that he would be a good candidate to interview, simply that. I'm not stating that he should be our head coach but just merely a candidate.
Warpath 01-28-2008, 09:12 PM Out of McDaniels, Fassell, and Spagnulo JM is my top choice. Through Mucch into the mix and Id be ok with either. Im just saying I prefer JM over Fassell and Spags. Give it a go with a young guy with new ideas. Can you imagine an offense where everyone gets the ball? God what a dream. Im ok if DS hires him.
Beemnseven 01-28-2008, 09:22 PM Unless McDaniels will bring Tom Brady with him, my guess is that he'll be a complete bust wherever he goes.
Similar to Norv without Aikman, Smith and Irvin.
RedZone 01-28-2008, 09:45 PM McDaniels lacks head coaching experience. Doesn't it make sense (in the Skins' case) to have a seasoned head coach who has worked with a full staff under him -- and with an owner over him?
Cap'nChaos47 01-28-2008, 11:09 PM Imagine yourself an assistant coach on the best football franchise over the last, oh, 6 years?? McDaniels I don't think is older then me!!! 6 years of football is a lot in his young age - why in the WORLD would you leave New England for a gig with still many unknowns, a meddlesome (don't tell me I'm wrong) owner and a fan/media base that can be downright cut-throat?
Snyder has made his choices as to the 'true' Coaches on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. On one side he appears to be keeping the ''Worker Ants'' (those that really have the connection with the players) personel together. On the other he appears to have been sold that Jim Zorn can really help to show the best Jason17 has to offer.
This leaves...... a Head Coach who can mold Zorn and Blache into the best they can be; allow them to grow as coaches in this leage. A HC that can smooth over the media after a loss and keep the team focused after a big win. A HC that hopefully will not feel the need to step over the play-calling on 3rd/4th and short, a HC that will not put all his chips into one side of the ball (ole'BallCoach) and ignore the other two aspects. I really do feel Snyder is doing this right by looking at ALL his options and telling any HC candidate "you will not be above me or this team, this is not about your ego, this is about winning ball games".
I don't even know if Snyder has botched the process - ever think maybe we and the media made everything out to be more then it is. Perhaps GW knew all along he 'had' a chance but it would be tough once Coach Joe left. Perhaps Saunders saw the writing on the wall 2/3's of the way into the season. Perhaps Snyder simply is trying to do the right thing at a slower, thought out pace and we the fans (24/7 on the internet), media 24/7 all over Ashburn, tracking his plane, etc... have really turned this 'sneeze' into a 'tornado'.
I truly believe when the dust settles and we draft well (with more picks then we've had in YEARS) that all this will blow over and we will start anew - with a new staff, a young QB that we know has the talent and perhaps those of us born after 1980 can start the tale of "Coach _ _ _ _ _ _" - just like those of you got to do when you were 27 years old, a 'Skins fan and Coach Joe (this relative UNKNOWN) took over our beloved Redskins.
HAIL!!!
skinsfan69 01-28-2008, 11:14 PM If memory serves me correct, I thought I read somewhere or heard something that Josh McDaniels could get an interview from DS. I keep hearing about Steve Spagnoulo having an interview after the SuperBowl but I think JM would be a great candidate to become our next head coach. He obviously has received some extensive tutoring via Coach Belichick and has shown he can help run an effective offense. This would definitely be an upgrade... well at least on the offensive side of the ball. It would be a nice change in my opinion to have a young coach making the calls.
C'mon dude. He's not coming here. Why would he come here when the OC is already in place, and the OC in place runs a different type of offense than he does?
SouperMeister 01-28-2008, 11:22 PM McDaniels has only two years & Spags has only one year as a Coordinator. Neither are ready for a Head Coaching position IMO.
Plus I agree w/Steveo, give me Brady, Moss, Welker, Watson, Maroney and the Pats OL and I'm sure I could've gotten them to the SB too.I'd take Mariuchi as a head coach from the WCO tree McDaniels, and Schwartz as defensive HC before Spagnuolo.
TrustinGibbs 01-29-2008, 12:17 AM Imagine yourself an assistant coach on the best football franchise over the last, oh, 6 years?? McDaniels I don't think is older then me!!! 6 years of football is a lot in his young age - why in the WORLD would you leave New England for a gig with still many unknowns, a meddlesome (don't tell me I'm wrong) owner and a fan/media base that can be downright cut-throat?
Snyder has made his choices as to the 'true' Coaches on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. On one side he appears to be keeping the ''Worker Ants'' (those that really have the connection with the players) personel together. On the other he appears to have been sold that Jim Zorn can really help to show the best Jason17 has to offer.
This leaves...... a Head Coach who can mold Zorn and Blache into the best they can be; allow them to grow as coaches in this leage. A HC that can smooth over the media after a loss and keep the team focused after a big win. A HC that hopefully will not feel the need to step over the play-calling on 3rd/4th and short, a HC that will not put all his chips into one side of the ball (ole'BallCoach) and ignore the other two aspects. I really do feel Snyder is doing this right by looking at ALL his options and telling any HC candidate "you will not be above me or this team, this is not about your ego, this is about winning ball games".
I don't even know if Snyder has botched the process - ever think maybe we and the media made everything out to be more then it is. Perhaps GW knew all along he 'had' a chance but it would be tough once Coach Joe left. Perhaps Saunders saw the writing on the wall 2/3's of the way into the season. Perhaps Snyder simply is trying to do the right thing at a slower, thought out pace and we the fans (24/7 on the internet), media 24/7 all over Ashburn, tracking his plane, etc... have really turned this 'sneeze' into a 'tornado'.
I truly believe when the dust settles and we draft well (with more picks then we've had in YEARS) that all this will blow over and we will start anew - with a new staff, a young QB that we know has the talent and perhaps those of us born after 1980 can start the tale of "Coach _ _ _ _ _ _" - just like those of you got to do when you were 27 years old, a 'Skins fan and Coach Joe (this relative UNKNOWN) took over our beloved Redskins.
HAIL!!!
Nice post and I am over 40. We dont really know what is going on and until a coach is actually announced no one has enough information to ridicule Snyder like the media and fans base have these past few weeks. What happens if Snyder hires some fairly unknown coordinater and he turns out to be the next Joe Gibbs? The NFL is all about staying ahead of the curve so I have no problem bringing in some new blood. Snyder has the opportunity to either find the next great head coach or hire an NFL retread who couldn't get it done at his last job in most cases. Atleast he is taking the time to actually attempt to find the right guy rather then jumping on the first guy who comes along to appease an angry and impatient fanbase.
When the season ended DS thought Joe Gibbs would be his coach going forward and now many of you only a few weeks later want him to not just find a headcoach but demand he is the best headcoach. How is he supposed to find the right guy but also do it under the time demands of an impatient fanbase? Take your time Danny but make sure you get the best man for the job.
skinsfan69 01-29-2008, 12:50 AM Nice post and I am over 40. We dont really know what is going on and until a coach is actually announced no one has enough information to ridicule Snyder like the media and fans base have these past few weeks. What happens if Snyder hires some fairly unknown coordinater and he turns out to be the next Joe Gibbs? The NFL is all about staying ahead of the curve so I have no problem bringing in some new blood. Snyder has the opportunity to either find the next great head coach or hire an NFL retread who couldn't get it done at his last job in most cases. Atleast he is taking the time to actually attempt to find the right guy rather then jumping on the first guy who comes along to appease an angry and impatient fanbase.
When the season ended DS thought Joe Gibbs would be his coach going forward and now many of you only a few weeks later want him to not just find a headcoach but demand he is the best headcoach. How is he supposed to find the right guy but also do it under the time demands of an impatient fanbase? Take your time Danny but make sure you get the best man for the job.
Joe Gibbs is not Joe Gibbs w/out Bobby B. Charley C. JKC and Ritchie P. One day Snyder will learn.
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